present or future

Status
Not open for further replies.

hela

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2004
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Arabic
Home Country
Tunisia
Current Location
Tunisia
Dear teachers,

Would you please tell me if my English is correct ?

"We were late for the film yesterday. I was really upset to have missed it. Next time, I will make sure we arrive on / in time for the show."

a) Should the verb phrase "make sure" be in the future only ?
b) and the verb "arrive" in the simple present only and not the future ?
c) which preposition should I use "in" or "on"?

Would you please tell me why?

Thank you for your help.
Hela
 

bhaisahab

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 12, 2008
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
England
Current Location
Ireland
Dear teachers,

Would you please tell me if my English is correct ?

"We were late for the film yesterday. I was really upset to have missed it. Next time, I will make sure we arrive on / in time for the show."

a) Should the verb phrase "make sure" be in the future only ? I'm not sure what you mean here. "I will make sure..." is fine.
b) and the verb "arrive" in the simple present only and not the future ? If you are asking if you should put "will" in front of "arrive", you shouldn't.
c) which preposition should I use "in" or "on"? Both are correct. They give different meanings.

Would you please tell me why?

Thank you for your help.
Hela

Bhai.
 

emsr2d2

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 28, 2009
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
I find the first two sentences contradictory. "We were late for the film" means, to me, "We arrived late [so we missed the beginning but saw the rest". Your second sentence then says "I was really upset to have missed it" suggesting that you didn't see any of the film. The two don't go together.

We were late for the film last night. I was really upset that I missed the start.
We were too late to get in to see the film last night. I was really upset that I missed it.
 

hela

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2004
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Arabic
Home Country
Tunisia
Current Location
Tunisia
Thank you very much for your answers.

Now, even though I've seen in another thread that in British English we don't use the subjunctive after "make sure", how can one explain that we cannot use the future tense after "make sure" in my sentence ? For me the verb "arrive" looks as if it were a subjunctive.
(Can I say "as if it was a subjunctive" if that was really the case?)

"We were too late to get in to see the film last night. I was really upset that I missed it. Next time, I will make sure we arrive on / in time for the show."

All the best
 

emsr2d2

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 28, 2009
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
Thank you very much for your answers.

Now, even though I've seen in another thread that in British English we don't use the subjunctive after "make sure", how can one explain that we cannot use the future tense after "make sure" in my sentence ? For me the verb "arrive" looks as if it were a subjunctive.
(Can I say "as if it was a subjunctive" if that was really the case?)

"We were too late to get in to see the film last night. I was really upset that I missed it. Next time, I will make sure we arrive on / in time for the show."

All the best

You'll get differing opinions on this forum as to whether English even truly has a subjunctive mood or not.
I can't work out why you think the verb "arrive" looks like the subjunctive. In "I will make sure we arrive on time", the present tense of "we arrive" is simply used to denote the future, as we do very frequently.

I will make sure it is done.
I will make sure she is ready for her wedding.
I will make sure she arrives at the church on time.
It's your job to make sure the best man remembers to bring the wedding rings.
 

5jj

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
Czech Republic
Current Location
Czech Republic
I will make sure that she is ready for her wedding.

What will be the (future) situation that we want?
At the future time, we will want to be able to think, "She is ready".
I will make sure of that:
I will make sure that she is ready for her wedding.

Compare:

I am sure (now) that she will be ready. - My thought is, "She will be ready".
I will be happy if she is ready. - My future happiness will come from the thought, "She is ready".
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top