Query on apostrophe use

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Hello,

Please can you help, I am writing signage and want to check the apostrophe placement for the following sentence?

Should it be...

Men's toilets

or

Mens' toilets

Thank you
Sam
 

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Hello,

Please can you help, I am writing signage and want to check the apostrophe placement for the following sentence?

Should it be...

Men's toilets

or

Mens' toilets

Thank you
Sam

As for all irregular nouns, the rule tells us to use 's and never s' - it's because you've already got a plural noun, so there's no need to double it (I mean the plural form of the noun).
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Thank you very much for your help engee30

I will write it as

Men's toilets

But am I correct though in saying

Ladies' toilets?

Thanks
Sam
 

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Thank you very much for your help engee30

I will write it as

Men's toilets

But am I correct though in saying

Ladies' toilets?

Thanks
Sam

Absolutely!
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The rule tells us to use the apostrophe if the noun is in its regular plural form.
 

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One last signage query...

I've written the following meaning it to be plural for schools

Schools' cloakroom

Is this right?

Thanks again,
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One last signage query...

I've written the following meaning it to be plural for schools

Schools' cloakroom

Is this right?

Thanks again,
Sam

No, it isn't, I'm afraid, Sam. You should write schools' cloakrooms (because you're talking about cloakrooms in more than one school). It's impossible for different schools to have a single one cloakroom, isn't it? If talking about one school, you could write school's cloakroom, or school's cloakrooms (if there were more than one cloakrooms, or preferably the cloakroom(s) of the school).
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If you're going to be parallel, use men's room and women's room, not men's and ladies'.
 

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Hello Engee,

I realise Schools' cloakroom is wrong, however, I am referring to only one cloakroom, which is actually based inside an art gallery but will be used by more than one school.

The reason I am saying School at all is because we also have another cloakroom used by non school informal visitors.

Orginally I has said School's cloakroom but thought this was wrong too.

Now you can see the context of it being a singular cloakroom but more than one school using it, what should I say then in this instance?

Thanks
Sam
 

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Hello Engee,

I realise Schools' cloakroom is wrong, however, I am referring to only one cloakroom, which is actually based inside an art gallery but will be used by more than one school.

The reason I am saying School at all is because we also have another cloakroom used by non school informal visitors.

Orginally I has said School's cloakroom but thought this was wrong too.

Now you can see the context of it being a singular cloakroom but more than one school using it, what should I say then in this instance?

Thanks
Sam

So I guess there's no other way but to rephrase the sentence. I'd go for Cloakroom for Schools. What would you say to this version? I'm not saying that in this case schools' cloakroom is wrong, but I feel it's not that right to say so.
 
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