[Idiom] Questions about "That said"

dio2

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Does it mean "Used for adding an opinion that seems to be the opposite of what you have just said, although you think both are true."?

And I think "That said" is ungrammatical, is something omitted in the phrase?
 

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"That said" is not ungrammatical and we use it a lot. Nothing has been omitted. Why don't you try using it in a sentence?
 

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Also asked here.


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No — that's what it means.
 

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Some people in the UK use "That being said".
 

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How about "With that being said", "With that said", and "Having said that"? Are their meanings the same as "That said"?
 

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How about "With that being said", "With that said", and "Having said that"? Are their meanings the same as "That said"?

"With that being said" and "Having said that" can both be used and, without further context, I can't see any meaningful difference between them and "That said". Of course, context might make a difference. I don't find "With that said" particularly natural but I can't say it's outright wrong.

Note: I see that you reported your own post with a suggestion that it be pushed up for people to see. Please don't do that. Be patient. Yesterday was Sunday so fewer people will have been looking at the forum anyway, and we're only halfway through Monday.
 
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