[Grammar] RE: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

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RE: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

Hi folks,

I would be very grateful if someone might be able, please, to confirm which of the following two sentences is correct with regards to use the terms "by" and "from":

"If I were up to me, he would be getting a nice friendly welcome by the Aryans."

"If I were up to me, he would be getting a nice friendly welcome from the Aryans."​

Many thanks in advance fir any kind assistance offered here.

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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

You get something from someone. He could, though, be warmly welcomed by the Aryans.

I'm a bit concerned about whom you're thinking of when you write "the Aryans". The term is often used by racists.
 
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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

You get something from someone. He could, though, be warmly welcomed by the Aryans.

I'm a bit concerned about whom you're thinking of when you write "the Aryans". The term is often used by racists.

Thanks GoesStation,

Well, it's part of the prison/slang story I am discussing in a earlier thread. I have actually censored the text (for the purposes of this forum). If you wish to edit/substitute any offending word then please feel free.

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Well, it's part of the prison/slang story I am discussing in a earlier thread.
It's fine to put all kinds of offensive words into the mouths of characters. I'd draw the line at helping to write a story that supported racist ideologies though.
 

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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

I would be very grateful if someone might be able, please, to confirm which of the following two sentences is correct regarding the prepositions "by" and "from":

"If it were up to me, he would be getting a nice friendly welcome by the Aryans."

"If it were up to me, he would be getting a nice friendly welcome from the Aryans."​

Many thanks in advance for any kind assistance offered here.
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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)


Rover,

I submitted my original post via my mobile phone; hence the mistakes.

I was not aware of the term: 'predisposition'.

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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

It's fine to put all kinds of offensive words into the mouths of characters. I'd draw the line at helping to write a story that supported racist ideologies though.

GoesStation,

In short, the two soon-to-be released convicts are eyeing up a young black rookie prison guard. One of them makes a remark about how he would like to hand the guard over to the Aryan gang members for a warm welcome.

There is racial tension in the story; but not to the point where you would say that the story was inciting ideological hatred. It's a prison and the white guys don't like the black gang members. I would never use the 'N.' word, ever.

There is swearing in the dialogue (I never actually wanted to ever write a piece containing bad language!) but the story/characters call for it.

Paul
 
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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

Hi again,

Here are the two sentences (with a four letter word omitted):

If I was a lifer, I’d be seein’ to it that the **** rookie would be gettin’ a nice friendly welcome from the Aryans. They’d sure mess him up real good if they could lay their hands on him for five.”​

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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

Much as I don't want to encourage you to actually type an offensive word, I'm having trouble working out what that four-letter word is. I expect it to be an adjective but I can't think of one. Can you give us the first and last letters? (I'm asking out of curiosity.)

For other learners, it might be worth noting that the use of "warm welcome" and "friendly welcome" are not meant literally. He would certainly get a welcome but it would be neither warm nor friendly!
 
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Re: Whether to use "From" or "By" (help?)

Much as I don't want to encourage you to actually type an offensive word, I'm having trouble working out what that four-letter word is. I expect it to be an adjective but I can't think of one. Can you give us the first and last letters? (I'm asking out of curiosity.)

For other learners, it might be worth noting that the use of "warm welcome" and "friendly welcome" are not meant literally. He would certainly get a welcome but it would be neither warm nor friendly!

Hi emsr,

Well, I guess I was slightly misleading in my calculation of the letters and description. I was aware of this while I was replying, but chose to skip over if because I did not really expect anyone to raise an issue over it. But, because you - justifiably - have, and because this is an 'English' forum!, I will satisfy your inquisitiveness (the answer is actually quite undramatic!):

"If I were a lifer, I'd be seein' to it that the f***ing rookie ... ."

Yes, please feel free to fill in any grey areas regarding any phraseology of which other students may not be certain of their meaning.

Many thanks.
 
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