Dear vil,
Perhaps you are Philip in usingenglishforum? As said in "Terryxpress and all seniors member involved" topic, if you should find out, .... you 'll know the answer then.
I posted those question at the same time on two different forums and I have my cause to do that. I don't want to battle out here since that will lead my nick to be banned or locked.
Perhaps the Shirner is of American culture, which I cannot know for sure, I'll check out those websites if I have time, thanks Ouisch. Can you please tell me more about Elk clubs or Freemansions, etc...? Because I don't know very much of American culture. And thanks Amigos4 again for being in favor of me.
P/s: pre·ten·tious / Ñ prI'tenSJs; NAmE Ñ / adjective(disapproving) trying to appear important, intelligent, etc. in order to impress other people; trying to be sth that you are not, in order to impress:
That’s a pretentious name for a dog! Ç It was just an ordinary house—nothing pretentious. Ç He’s so pretentious! (Oxford dictionary)