The Devil is gonna be back!!!!!

[eric2004]

Everybody, see my signature.
:evil:
I think I ought to get such right too because this is an American website, don't I?
8)

Btw, I took a lot of time read American social rules, laws and history recently. So I can be a little stronger to come here than ever.

And, thanks to Ron for your always supporting me.

I will finish my visa application soon. I pray for getting what I want and I also wish American dollar can go up fastly because I'm really worried about my loss if not.

 

[Cooler]

I am glad to see you back.
I am wondering, does your ideas of politics have any bad effect on your visa application?
Anyway, we can still talk about other things.

 

[Tdol]

Nice sig, Eric. Red and I are British and there is no written constitution in Britain. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[Tdol]

PS Good luck with your visa application.;-)

 

[RonBee]

Everybody, see my signature.
:evil:

Freedom of religion and freedom of speech are certainly things worth aspiring to.

I think I ought to get such right too because this is an American website, don't I?

Say:

• I think I ought to have that right too, because this is an American website, isn't it?

Btw, I took a lot of time read American social rules, laws and history recently. So I can be a little stronger to come here than ever.

Offhand, I would say that your English has been improving.

And, thanks to Ron for your always supporting me.

You're welcome.

I'll do whatever I can to help, whether it is with your visa application or whatever.

I will finish my visa application soon. I pray for getting what I want and I also wish American dollar can go up fastly because I'm really worried about my loss if not.

Try:

• I will finish my visa application soon. I hope that I will get what I want, and I also hope the American dollar goes up fast, because I am really worried about what might happen if it doesn't.

I would think it would be better for you if the dollar goes down in value, because then it would take fewer renminbi to buy the same amount of dollars. Am I mistaken?

 

[RonBee]

I am glad to see you back.
I am wondering, does your ideas of politics have any bad effect on your visa application?
Anyway, we can still talk about other things.

Try:

• Do your ideas about politics have any bad effects on your visa application?

Or:

• Do your political ideas have any bad effects on your visa application?

It's good to see you and Eric here posting again.

:hi:

 

[eric2004]

Yeah, Cooler, nice to see you here too. You're certainly right. We shouldn't always keep politic topics because there are many interesting things here with these keen foreigners. :twisted: As for your question, hmm, basically I think there is only US embassy which cares about your inclination of immigrant. I'm going to study at Australia, so it's ok for me.
But in the future, whatever, I guess I will choose a right time to apply for American Green Card? Not sure, any kind of free land will be my happly place, such as Britain, Australia, or even Taiwan. But you know, Taiwan may not welcome people from Mainland.


Oops, Mr. tdol, you guys are not American? No wonder "Our King" Red suggested me to not........(secret) . Happy to see your reply.
And I thought there should have been the similar constitution defending people's freedom of speech in Britain as American. Am I mistaken?


Sir Ron, Being a teacher one day, then being forever. Not sure whether I said right about this Chinese proverb. :wink: Please keep teaching and correcting me all the time, or I'm really gonna be a :evil: to you. kidding.

Yep, Sir Ron, you're not right here. I need a lot of Australian Dollar to pay for my fees. Because Chinese Renminbi has been pinning American dollar, it would take me less money when American dollar become stronger.

Good night? Not sure time zone here.

 

[Tdol]

Ron and Mike are American, Casiopea's Candian,etc. In the UK, there is no written constitution- we use tradition and habit as the basis. While free speech is respected, it is not, in fact, guaranteed in the UK. Freedom of speech is in a sense restricted here as it might infringe other laws. That doesn't stop people from opening their mouths, though.

British and American law are very similar, and can even use each other, but we also have a strong European elemnt in our law now- European law stands above domestic law. This means that things such as the right to privacy take precedence over freedom of speech.

In terms of things like criticisoing the government, things are very liberal. The areas where freeedom of speech would fail as a defence would be on areas such as racism. In the states, racists can claim their right to say what they want. Here, they could be in trouble. ;-)

 

[RonBee]

Boy, Eric! You always make me think. :wink:

So it's Australian dollars that you need, eh? Ozron is Australian. Maybe you' could tell him you're coming. :wink:

Did you know that Australia has the world's ten most deadly snakes? Are you having second thoughts yet? :wink:

Actually, it's a very nice place, but watch out for the crocodiles. :wink:

Also, I don't think knowing English is going to help you much in Australia. (Just kidding.) :wink:

I don't know much about currency exchange, but I suppose I can learn. I think maybe I get it. The renminbi is pegged to the US dollar. The more the US dollar is worth the more Australian dollars you can buy with your renminbis. Is that right?

I think an idiomatic way to phrase that expression would be: "Once a teacher, always a teacher." What do you think, Tdol?

(London is six hours ahead of St. Louis. I am not sure about China.)

Tdol is right. There are very few restrictions on freedom of speech here. People originally came here partly because they chafed at things like restrictions of freedom of religion. (Then there was further rebellion after they got here, but that's another story.) It just so happens that I have recently been reading a recently written biography of Benjamin Franklin. It's quite interesting. (Perhaps Tdol will tell you what the name Franklin means.)

 

[Tdol]

'Franklin' means landowner, doesn't it? ;-)

 

[RonBee]

From the book:

• During the late Middle Ages, a new class emerged in the villages of rural England: men who possessed property and wealth but not members of the titled aristocracy. Proud but without great pretension, assertive of their rights as members of an independent middle class, these freeholders came to be known as franklins, from the Middle English word "frankeleyn", meaning freeman.

--"Benjamin Franklin, an American Life" by Walter Isaacson, page 5

(Probably Tdol is also right.)

(BTW, I made a typo. I meant to say restrictions on freedom of religion.)

 

[Cooler]

Eric, I did not make myself clear. What I was really asking is, do the authorities in your country erect some kind of barriers to your application because of your thoughts? Not knowing much about visa application, I have no idea what a role the authorities play in it.
(I assume it is OK to talk about it without mentioning any specifics)

I must say I really admire your courage and determination to go abroad. Living abroad could be very hard to me. But I think you know better than me. May I ask, what major are you? Mine is physics.

Eric, have you ever read something of Yu Jie? (The well-known freelance in Beijing who graduated from Peking University) I must say, his works have a major effect on my thoughts now.

RonBee, it was very nice of you to offer such corrections. I appreciate your help very much. Speaking of time zone, China is eight hours ahead of London. Since you said London is six hours ahead of St. Louis, I assume St. Louis is using 'middle time' of the US(I don't know how to say that. 'west time', 'east time' and 'middle time', something like that. Although China is even a little bigger than the US, we are only using 'Beijing time')
:wink:

 

[eric2004]

Mr. Tdol, thank you for your explanation. I know few about Britain, but I learned before that British are kinda conservative. Is it right? If I'm wrong, please don't blame me. I didn't mean any kind of offensive comment. Anyway, I prefer to take Ielts than Toefl. I think the way of Ielts is a very good style of exam for our English candidates.
Btw, I support Mr. Blair for his league with Mr. Bush coz I believe it can be good for both of your countries as well as the world. Why did you blame him so much? I was totally confused about it.

Sir Ron, I'm not a boy, please I'm a Man. Who's Ozron? I'm not sure if he or she would like talk with a guy like me. I'm a little hysterical and insane, right? I don't even know who I am now. I really hope I'll be able to start a new life when I'm abroad, it's fairly tough for me though.

And also, come on, I'll be studying in Australia, not exploring in deserts or rainforests. There will be surely no crocodiles in my sight. :evil: I'll be scared by snakes. Don't make me worry about it please.

Yeah yeah, clever Ron, you learned very fast and successful on currency exchange. So drive your president to think over how to prosper America quickly . :wink: or tell him you won't vote him.

And through comparing American and British lifestyles, I would like to choose the former when get a chance. The biggest reason is I'd be able to see a good many American movies there. :wink: as well as hot girls. really hot. God. like cheering squad in NBA.

Franklin? Landowner? No private land in China now. All properties belong to Communists who have killed most of landowners at the beginning of construction of China.P.R.

Dear Cooler, :wink: how can you think of that I do dare to address my political opinions in public? I'm not crazy, please. So nobody restrict me to leave yet. And I guess nobody cares about this too except my parents. You know I said before I didn't meet anybody in China who has the same political belief as mine in reality. You know what Chinese are like. right? Nobody dare talk about it or wish to discuss it here. right?

Hmm, you're still in China? Escaping from China is the urgent thing for me now, so I don't worry about any harsh life when I'm out. There is nothing more important than life, isn't it? And I really fear that one day I can't hide real myself and speak out my hatred towards CCP and those followers, I'll be in prison or even killed. I'll be majoring in Systems of Business. You physics? wow. I should say I respect you because I've been never understanding physics since I was in high school.

So you're still a college student?

余杰？who's he? person like us? No, I don't know him. All of my thoughts have been from my experience since I realized we were cheated by our government and from then on, I kept knowing what the truth was.

You know, if we don't consider our patriotism and avoid our weak qualities, it's not hard to realize where we are and what's wrong with our country and people.

Anyway, guys, please wish me luck. I gotta take a body check today, which is one last process of visa application that I have to do. Next step is only awaiting the outcome.

 

[MikeNewYork]

Everybody, see my signature.
:evil:
I think I ought to get such right too because this is an American website, don't I?
8)

Btw, I took a lot of time read American social rules, laws and history recently. So I can be a little stronger to come here than ever.

And, thanks to Ron for your always supporting me.

I will finish my visa application soon. I pray for getting what I want and I also wish American dollar can go up fastly because I'm really worried about my loss if not.

I like your signature. I am an American and the US Constitution (modeled, by the way, after the British Magna carta) is our most precious document. I want you to know, however, that many non-Americans (and some Americans) fail to understand that this document governs only the relationship between the people and the federal government. It is has little to do with people to people interactions or the behavior of private (non-government) organizations. It was designed to protect citizens from an overbearing federal state (as the writers believed the monarchy in England at that time to be). :wink:

 

[Tdol]

The writers were right. ;-)

 

[MikeNewYork]

The writers were right. ;-)

:wink:

 

[Cooler]

Dear Cooler, :wink: how can you think of that I do dare to address my political opinions in public? I'm not crazy, please. So nobody restrict me to leave yet. And I guess nobody cares about this too except my parents. You know I said before I didn't meet anybody in China who has the same political belief as mine in reality. You know what Chinese are like. right? Nobody dare talk about it or wish to discuss it here. right?

Hmm, you're still in China? Escaping from China is the urgent thing for me now, so I don't worry about any harsh life when I'm out. There is nothing more important than life, isn't it? And I really fear that one day I can't hide real myself and speak out my hatred towards CCP and those followers, I'll be in prison or even killed. I'll be majoring in Systems of Business. You physics? wow. I should say I respect you because I've been never understanding physics since I was in high school.

So you're still a college student?

余杰？who's he? person like us? No, I don't know him. All of my thoughts have been from my experience since I realized we were cheated by our government and from then on, I kept knowing what the truth was.

You know, if we don't consider our patriotism and avoid our weak qualities, it's not hard to realize where we are and what's wrong with our country and people.

Although I do not know anybody who has the same polit... ideas as me(or you :wink: ) around me, I feel that we may not be as "lonely" as we think. More or less, some people around me are aware of "something is wrong" and they obviously know the reason for that. They are just not so concern about it, maybe because they care about other things but not polit.... I don't think they do so because they are afraid of something. I think they just don't want to talk about it.

Yes, I am. I am a little surprised that you don't know Yu Jie. :wink: In a word, he is a person like us, except that he has much more influence . Do a google search and use some "special software" or "technique" to read his articles, for some "well-known" reason.

Good luck on everything, fellow. :wink:

 

[eric2004]

Oops. Post a wrong article

 

[eric2004]

I like your signature. I am an American and the US Constitution (modeled, by the way, after the British Magna carta) is our most precious document. I want you to know, however, that many non-Americans (and some Americans) fail to understand that this document governs only the relationship between the people and the federal government. It is has little to do with people to people interactions or the behavior of private (non-government) organizations. It was designed to protect citizens from an overbearing federal state (as the writers believed the monarchy in England at that time to be). :wink:

Really? But I learned from a book in which indicated that any American can express their ideas even if those're very extreme or racism in public only if they didn't commit a crime. So through it now American could be very tolerable to any kind of theories. Is it not true?

And I'd thought here was a virtual land too. Red5 is an administrator. Also here is a public forum? Now I'm not sure about this. If it's not I'm really sorry because I didn't have experience connect and talk with foreigners. All I know about you guys and societies are from books, which was pretty interesting for me.

Btw, I've been wondering who had strong feelings about what I talked about China? Prove me wrong if anybody feels that. PLEASE.

Anyway, I'm listening.

 

[eric2004]

Although I do not know anybody who has the same polit... ideas as me(or you :wink: ) around me, I feel that we may not be as "lonely" as we think. More or less, some people around me are aware of "something is wrong" and they obviously know the reason for that. They are just not so concern about it, maybe because they care about other things but not polit.... I don't think they do so because they are afraid of something. I think they just don't want to talk about it.

Yes, I am. I am a little surprised that you don't know Yu Jie. :wink: In a word, he is a person like us, except that he has much more influence . Do a google search and use some "special software" or "technique" to read his articles, for some "well-known" reason.

Good luck on everything, fellow. :wink:

Oh? He's a member of revolution movement? I can see any sort of articles by means of 动态网. But now, I really have none of spirits of patriotism. Trust me, revolution can never work it out. Do you know a scene among Lu Xun's books in which a crowd of Chinese assembled to watch revolutionists' deaths, who had been dreaming of liberate China as well as Chinese. Now you know what happened at the early era of 20th, right? They lagughed at those revolutionists and had none of pities on them. You know what? They would do so forever unless you become their authorities finally. So I had been disappointed with Chinese and China. All I wanna do is to change my nationality.

Btw, dear buddy. Take care of yourself especially if you're in Beijing.
And I do really think it's totally useless to save Chinese. Even if you're gonna die for them, they'd still regard you as traitors and idiots.