the pronunciation of 's (apostrophe s ) ?

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Dear teachers,
I have been puzzled by the question for a very long time.
Let's assume that the following words are all people's names.
Jack, Jat, Jass, Jaz,

1. This is Jack's book.
2. This is Jat's book.
3. This is Jass's book.
4. This is Jaz's book.
5. This is my teacher's book.
6. These are our teachers' books.

How to pronunce those red parts?
Now I read them as /ks/, /ts/, /siz/, /ziz/, /z/, /z/.
Am I right?
I doubt these because I often hear "'s" is pronunced as "/s/", even in the 5th and the 6th sentence. ( I think in the last two sentences, it should be pronunced as /z/)
So, are there any rules?
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1. This is Jack's book. /ks/
2. This is Jat's book. /ts/
3. This is Jass's book./siz/
4. This is Jaz's book./ziz/
5. This is my teacher's book./z/
6. These are our teachers' books./z/

How to pronunce those red parts?
Now I read them as /ks/, /ts/, /siz/, /ziz/, /z/, /z/.
Am I right? Yes, you are
I doubt these because I often hear "'s" is pronunced as "/s/", even in the 5th and the 6th sentence. ( I think in the last two sentences, it should be pronunced as /z/)
So, are there any rules?

Where do you here the /s/ sound? I don't hear it here in the UK. ;-)
 

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5. This is my teacher's book.
6. These are our teachers' books.

It's pronounced as [z] by native speakers; however, some speakers, especially non-native speakers, might pronounce the s in teacher's as because of a sound process called progressive assimilation.

In antcipating the voiceless quality of ch, an affricate in the word teacher's, a speaker might carry over that voiceless quality to s because s is a fricative, and fricatives share similarities with affricates.

teacher' (non-native pronunciation)
teacher'[z] (native pronunciation

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Cas, is there anything you don't know? :D

We're not worthy </Wayne's World> :wink:
 

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We must try to find an area of language she isn't an expert on. Unlikely, I admit. ;-)
 

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tdol said:
We must try to find an area of language she isn't an expert on. Unlikely, I admit. ;-)

I wonder what her Klingon skills are like. ;)
 

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shane said:
tdol said:
We must try to find an area of language she isn't an expert on. Unlikely, I admit. ;-)

I wonder what her Klingon skills are like. ;)

nuqneH,

nuqjatlh? jIyajbe' t1hIngan Ho.
peDoghQo'.

Click Here to Learn Klingon in 7 easy Lessons :wink:

I know only what I know. There's a great deal I don't know and that's why I visit this Forum. You guys are great teachers. Thank you for that. :D
 

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What does one do when one has mastered Klingon? ;-)
 

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tdol said:
What does one do when one has mastered Klingon? ;-)

One moves to Kling. :wink:
 

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Shane, your picture has vanished- I can only see a red cross now.;-)
 

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tdol said:
Shane, your picture has vanished- I can only see a red cross now.;-)

It's a picture of a red cross. ;)

I'll sort it out tonight; I'm at work atm. :)
 

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It's a cute red cross. ;-)
 

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MikeNewYork said:
tdol said:
What does one do when one has mastered Klingon? ;-)

One moves to Kling. :wink:

Cool word! Did ya know kling means dog in Aboriginal languages spoken in Alaska. :shock: Given that, coupled with the fact that the Klingon language was derived from bits here and pieces there of several human languages, the word klingon could mean, take the sled dog out for a run. :D
 

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Casiopea said:
Cool word! Did ya know kling means dog in Aboriginal languages spoken in Alaska. :shock: Given that, coupled with the fact that the Klingon language was derived from bits here and pieces there of several human languages, the word klingon could mean, take the sled dog out for a run. :D

I fear you may have too much time on your hands, Cas. ;)
 

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shane said:
Casiopea said:
Cool word! Did ya know kling means dog in Aboriginal languages spoken in Alaska. :shock: Given that, coupled with the fact that the Klingon language was derived from bits here and pieces there of several human languages, the word klingon could mean, take the sled dog out for a run. :D

I fear you may have too much time on your hands, Cas. ;)

Placating the whims, placating the whims.

One of my favo(u)rite things about living in Japan is this. I get asked the exact same question over and over again, and it's not the question that's interesting; it's the exact order of the nouns,

Where are you from? America? Britian? Australia? New Zealand? (lengthy pause; say anything now) China? :lol: :lol:
 

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Why did you come to Japan?
How long have you been in Japan?
Do you like Japanese food?
Which is better; Japan or Canada?


Any of these ring a bell with you, Cas? ;)
 

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shane said:
Why did you come to Japan?
How long have you been in Japan?
Do you like Japanese food?
Which is better; Japan or Canada?


Any of these ring a bell with you, Cas? ;)

Yup, and in addition,

Can you use chopsticks?
What's your favorite color?

:D
 
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