Who / Whom ?

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FrankOse

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Since we are referring to the people who made the calls,should it be 'who'?
 

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Since we are referring to the people who made the calls,should it be 'who'?
Well, I said 'whom' because that's strictly correct. But I don't really like the gratuitous parading of obsolescent forms. Ordinary speakers would rarely use the passive here, and would say 'Who made all the phone calls?' If they used the passive, and the name of the person making all the phone calls was a surprise, many speakers would use 'who'; it would sound prissy not to:

A Guess who it was... All the phone calls were made by ... John!
B All the phone calls were made by who?

b

PS In an exam, 'whom' would be the right answer. But language teaching shouldn't be about setting traps for students.
 
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I can not figure something out. Why are most of the English exams exactly about parading of obsolescent forms. The forms ordinary speakers would rarely use as they just sound prissy...:shock: like inversion and others.

Perhaps I should create a new tread but just to ask your personal opinion, BobK, please. I don't mind others joining in this tread though.
 
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Ya,I agree with both of you.'Whom' is strictly correct in all the english exams but for spoken english,it just sounds weird and prissy.

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I with BobK, too. I have to confess that, if I were to use the word order given in the poll question I would almost certainly "all the calls were made by whom". But, I would be VERY unlikely to use that construction. BobK's "who made the phone calls?" just sounds so much more natural.
 

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Same here. :up:;-) - I'd use 'whom' if I used that construction, but I would feel rather precious as I did it, and my friends would say something like 'Hey, get you! Who's preparing for an interview then?' or 'No more buttered scones for me, Vicar.'

b

PS - Not "Vicar", "Mater" (pronounced /'meıtə/ -the excessively respectful and distant word that rich children used to use to address their mother, pronounced the way it was taught in posh schools in those days)
 
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and my friends would say something like 'Hey, get you! Who's preparing for an interview then?' or
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'No more buttered scones for me, Vicar.'
Please Bob, could you explaint what these sentence mean?

Thank you in advance
 

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Thanks Banderas, I can see you are abroad and learning a lot of British slangs and idioms. That's the best way of learning.
I didn't know any of them. Actually I know few British slangs, I have to work on this as well.
 
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