[General] You end up with an odd pair of throwbacks from fifties casting.

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What does " You end up with an odd pair of throwbacks from fifties casting. " mean?
I completely have no idea about what the sentence is talking about. I only realise that maybe there is a kind of connection between "an odd pair of throwbacks from fifties casting" and "Dean Martin, the bad boy of the Rat Pack and the dad on ‘Leave It to Beaver’".

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Pence, who declined requests for an interview, is also one of the few with whom Trump hasn’t overtly feuded. “The President considers him one of his best decisions,” Tony Fabrizio, a pollster for Trump, told me. Even so, they are almost comically mismatched. “You end up with an odd pair of throwbacks from fifties casting,” the former White House strategist Stephen Bannon joked, comparing them to Dean Martin, the bad boy of the Rat Pack, and “the dad on ‘Leave It to Beaver.’ ”

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It's something only somebody who's about my age could really get. Do you know what a throwback is?
 

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The speaker is referring to American TV shows and celebrities from the 1950s. Dean Martin was known for drinking heavily and for his raucous personality. The father character on the Leave it to Beaver show was the opposite.
 

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It's something only somebody who's about my age could really get. Do you know what a throwback is?
A throwback can mean three things as follows:
1. A reversion to an earlier stage of development.
2. pejorative A person considered to be primitive, uncivilized and mentally deficient.
3. An organism that has characteristics of a more primitive form.


But I don't know which one is proper for the context here.

 

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A throwback can mean one of three things as follows:
1. A reversion to an earlier stage of development.
2. pejorative A person considered to be primitive, uncivilized and mentally deficient.
3. An organism that has characteristics of a more primitive form.


But I don't know which one is proper for the context here.


In this context it is something from an earlier time.
 

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The speaker is referring to American TV shows and celebrities from the 1950s. Dean Martin was known for drinking heavily and for his raucous personality. The father character on the Leave it to Beaver show was the opposite.
Thank you for your time. So you mean: " an odd pair of throwbacks from fifties casting" is equivalent to " American TV shows and celebrities from the 1950s, including Dean Martin and the father character on the Leave it to Beaver show ". Am I right? Could you please tell me what "throwbacks" actually refers to here? Many thanks indeed.
 

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In this context it is something from an earlier time.
Could you please elaborate a bit more about this word? It's hard for us to understand a cultural thing in a different country.
 
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Thank you for your time. So you mean: "an odd pair of throwbacks from fifties casting" is equivalent to "American TV shows and celebrities from the 1950s, including Dean Martin and the father character on the Leave it to Beaver show". Am I right? Could you please tell me what "throwbacks" actually refers to here? Many thanks indeed.
The phrase means something like "old-fashioned choices, as if Dean Martin and the dad on Leave it to Beaver had been cast in a movie together."

Remember not to put a space after an opening quotation mark or before a closing one.
 

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I am not sure how I can explain it better. I was born in 1950. That makes me old compared to some people. People who can remember Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis are probably my age and older. Now, what were we talking about?
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A throwback can mean three things as follows:
1. A reversion to an earlier stage of development.
2. pejorative A person considered to be primitive, uncivilized and mentally deficient.
3. An organism that has characteristics of a more primitive form.
4. 'Something that is similar to something that existed in the past, or belongs to the past.'—quoted from https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/throwback
 

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The phrase means something like "old-fashioned choices, as if Dean Martin and the dad on Leave it to Beaver had been cast in a movie together."

Remember not to put a space after an opening quotation mark or before a closing one.

Many thanks for your help. Also, it's very kind of you to point out my mistakes and corretct them. So when the former White House strategist Stephen Bannon said the sentence "You end up with an odd pair of throwbacks from fifties casting.", he actually means Trump and Pence always remind him of this old-fashioned pair in 1950s (Dean Martin and the dad on Leave it to Beaver). They are so different in character and personality.
 

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No, he is not saying they remind him of Dean Martin and Hugh Beaumont (the dad on Leave it to Beaver). What he is saying is that they seem to be an odd couple (as Martin and Beaumont would have been).
 

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No, he is not saying they remind him of Dean Martin and Hugh Beaumont (the dad on Leave it to Beaver). What he is saying is that they seem to be an odd couple (as Martin and Beaumont would have been).
Got it. I really appreciate your help. Dean Martin, one member of the music band "Rat Pack", was known for drinking heavily and for his raucous personality. On the contrary, Hugh Beaumont (the dad on Leave it to Beaver) was a moralistic person. Dean Martin didn't have that image.
Trump and Pence are so different in character and personality that we see them as an odd pair just like Dean Martin and
Hugh Beaumont (the dad on Leave it to Beaver).
 

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Got it. I really appreciate your help. Dean Martin, one member of the music band "Rat Pack", was known for drinking heavily and for his raucous personality. On the contrary, Hugh Beaumont (the dad on Leave it to Beaver) was a moralistic person. Dean Martin didn't have that image.
Trump and Pence are so different in character and personality that we see them as an odd pair just like Dean Martin and
Hugh Beaumont (the dad on Leave it to Beaver).

Your conclusion is correct. There's just one little factual error in your post: the Rat Pack wasn't a band. It was a loose group of Hollywood celebrities who gained additional fame for hanging out together and often appearing in films or on stage together. Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Sammy Davis Jr. were its best known members.
 

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Your conclusion is correct. There's just one little factual error in your post: the Rat Pack wasn't a band. It was a loose group of Hollywood celebrities who gained additional fame for hanging out together and often appearing in films or on stage together. Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Sammy Davis Jr. were its best known members.

Thanks a million. I've also searched "the Rat Pack" on google. The following is what I've got:

The Rat Pack is a term used by the media to refer to an informal group of entertainers centered on the Las Vegas casino scene. Having its origins in a group of friends that met at the Los Angeles home of Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall, by the 1960s, it was the name used by the press and the general public to refer to a later variation of the group that called itself "the Summit" or "the Clan", featuring Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford and Joey Bishop among others; they appeared together on stage and in films in the early 1960s, including the movies Ocean's 11, Sergeants 3, and Robin and the 7 Hoods (in the last film, Bing Crosby replaced Lawford). Sinatra, Martin, and Davis were regarded as the group's lead members.


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And they were not likely to have spent much time in bars late at night with a moralistic actor.
 
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I wouldn't have said Hugh Beaumont was moralistic. It is simply that he portrayed a family man. Dean Martin's image was quite different.
 
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