Help with the /ʧ/ sound

[Orella]

Hi,

Could someone help me with some words that have the sound /ʧ/ in between them. I am associating these words with pictures so that students can learn the meanings as they learn the word. These are a few words that I got: Armchair, Butcher, Cappuccino, Statue. Can you suggest four more?

Thanks,
Orella

 

[5jj]

archer, teacher, matches, torches,
Remember that some speakers use /tj/ in statue.

 

[Orella]

Thank you, so much. Did you mean that statue is not a good example?

 

[5jj]

Thank you, so much. Did you mean that statue is not a good example?

I would prefer examples in which the pronunciation is /ʧ/ for everyone. Possibly, being a /tj/ man myself, I am biased.

 

[Orella]

Thanks, that is a good thought and I am adopting that in to the word list that I am creating to teach sounds. Could you give me one another example too with the sound /ʧ/ in the middle of the word.

 

[mara_ce]

merchant, orchard, feature, gesture, posture, mischief, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure, pilchard, richer, wretched,

 

[BobK]

merchant, orchard, feature, gesture, posture, mischief, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure, pilchard, richer, wretched,

All the '-ture' ones are excluded by a related version of 5jj's objection. In a greenhouse once I saw a pitcher plant and pointed to it, saying 'Look - that's pretty as a pitcher'. But the pun wasn't very good, because that's not how I pronounce 'picture'.

b

 

[mara_ce]

All the '-ture' ones are excluded by a related version of 5jj's objection.

Gimson gives the examples "ture" as word-medial (intervocalic or consonant preceeding).

Daniel Jones´dictionary shows "picture" with the /ʧ/ sound.

 

[BobK]

Gimson gives the examples "ture" as word-medial (intervocalic or consonant preceeding).

Daniel Jones´dictionary shows "picture" with the /ʧ/ sound.

Maybe so, but I didn't learn to speak from a reference book ;-) Like 5jj, I'm a /tjǝ/ man; and there are many many of us.

b

 

[mara_ce]

Maybe so, but I didn't learn to speak from a reference book ;-) Like 5jj, I'm a /tjǝ/ man; and there are many many of us.
b

I see, you both belong to the very careful speakers that Gimson mentions. ;-)

“Variants. Some very careful speakers, however, use /t/ and /d/ + /j/ in words which otherwise frequently have /ʧ/ or /dʒ/, e.g. gesture, culture, virtue, statue, righteous, fortune, literature, question, posture, Christian, soldier, grandeur.” (Gimson)

 

[birdeen's call]

I see, you both belong to the very careful speakers that Gimson mentions. ;-)

“Variants. Some very careful speakers, however, use /t/ and /d/ + /j/ in words which otherwise frequently have /ʧ/ or /dʒ/, e.g. gesture, culture, virtue, statue, righteous, fortune, literature, question, posture, Christian, soldier, grandeur.” (Gimson)

I really dislike this word, "careful", used in such context. I'm pretty sure that most of these speakers aren't much more careful than others. This is just how they speak.

 

[mara_ce]

I´ve got Gimson´s Pronunciation of English, Revised by Alan Cruttenden, Fifth Edition. It´s a book for anyone studying the sounds of English or teaching English pronunciation to non-native speakers.

The “-ture” examples with the sound /ʧ/ are given as word-medial (intervocalic) e.g. feature, and word-medial (consonant preceding) e.g. gesture, posture, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure.

I copied part of the variants from page 161. I agree with you. Maybe “very careful speakers” isn´t appropriate, but that is what the book says.

 

[Orella]

I have got the words I needed. Thanks a lot for the help.

 

[BobK]

I´ve got Gimson´s Pronunciation of English, Revised by Alan Cruttenden, Fifth Edition. It´s a book for anyone studying the sounds of English or teaching English pronunciation to non-native speakers.

The “-ture” examples with the sound /ʧ/ are given as word-medial (intervocalic) e.g. feature, and word-medial (consonant preceding) e.g. gesture, posture, juncture, capture, lecture, culture, adventure.

I copied part of the variants from page 161. I agree with you. Maybe “very careful speakers” isn´t appropriate, but that is what the book says.

No problem ;-) I imagine Gimson's choice of the word that BC diliked was defensive - I'd be surprised if he wasn't one of those 'more careful speakers'.

b