Half-brother, half-sister, ergo... half-daughter?

[charliedeut]

Perhaps we all immediately realised that he had a half-brother.

Hi all,

5jj posted this reply in the "brothers or siblings?" (sic) thread.

My mind immediately asked: if mywife has a girl which was born from a previous marriage, what is the girl to me? A half-daughter? I have not legally adopted her yet, so I don't think "step-daughter" fits in here.

The question is merely linguistic, though. For all it's worth, she calls me "dad" (sometimes in English, too :lilangel, and I consider her my daughter.

Thank you.

charliedeut

 

[Tdol]

When you marry, any children become step-sons/daughters. I don't think there's any need for a formal adoption to call them this.

 

[Barb_D]

In fact, in the US you would NOT legally adopt the child if the father was still alive, unless the father agreed to surrender all parental rights. This is not common.

Once you do adopt a child, he or she is your son or daughter, NOT a step-child.

Your spouse's children are your step-children, but socially you don't have to get so specific.

My husband refers to my children as his daughters in most cases. Only if it's something like explaining that they are spending the week with my ex-husband does he bother clarifying that they are steps.

If you have a chlid and your spouse has a child, they are step-brothers (using males for simplicity).
If you have a child and then your new spouse and you have a child together, they are half-brothers.
If you have a child, your spouse has a child, and then you have a child together, the first two each have a step-brother and a half-brother. The new child has two half-brothers.

 

[charliedeut]

Your spouse's children are your step-children, but socially you don't have to get so specific.

I usually don't: good friends already know, so there's no need to mention it every time; acquaintances and strangers needn't know. She's my daughter, and I'm her dad, full stop.

That's why I said in the first post that the question was just related to the way they are called.

charliedeut

 

[emsr2d2]

As far as I am aware, she would be your stepdaughter until you adopt her. After that, she would legally be your daughter though you might choose to refer to her as your adopted daughter.

My cousin was in that very situation. His mother (my aunt) remarried when my cousin was 10 but my aunt's new husband never legally adopted my cousin. My cousin chose to call him "Dad" and my uncle referred to my cousin as "my son" but technically neither of those were ever true. They were stepfather and stepson.

 

[charliedeut]

Hi all and thank you.

It's a pity there's no other "better-sounding" term for the poor kids!

charliedeut

PS: However, the Spanish equivalents sound much much much worse!

 

[emsr2d2]

Hi all and thank you.

It's a pity there's no other "better-sounding" term for the poor kids!

charliedeut

PS: However, the Spanish equivalents sound much much much worse!

Wow, I just looked up the Spanish word for stepfather! :shock:

 

[charliedeut]

Wow, I just looked up the Spanish word for stepfather! :shock:

Look at #2: it still makes it less desirable to call the children that: padrastro - Diccionario Inglés-Español WordReference.com

 

[5jj]

Wow, I just looked up the Spanish word for stepfather! :shock:

So that's where Humbert got the idea.

 

[Barb_D]

Agreed. Strangers don't need to know and friends already do. It's only on forms and such that you might need to be specfic.

 

[charliedeut]

So that's where :?: Humbert :?: got the idea.

And depending on the answer:

 

[5jj]

:?: Humbert :?:

Lolita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[charliedeut]

Lolita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OK. I haven't read the book yet, so we'll leave it at a single .

 

[Chicken Sandwich]

I agree with everyone else. Where I live, it's OK to call the daughter of your spouse a "stepdaughter" (or stiefdochter as it's called in Dutch) even if you haven't legally adopter her.

A half-daughter?

I have never heard of a "half-daughter" (and I can't imagine how you can have a "half-daughter", she is your daughter or she isn't ;-)), though to me that implies that you and your daughter are related. However, you and your stepdaughter do not share any genes*. Half-siblings share on average 25% of their genes.

*Scientfically speaking this isn't exactly true, I said it for the sake of simplicity.

 

[Tdol]

It's a pity there's no other "better-sounding" term for the poor kids!

People often skip the step- part.

 

[Barb_D]

To clarify, there is no term "half-daughter" or "half-son."

 

[birdeen's call]

I have never heard of a "half-daughter" (and I can't imagine how you can have a "half-daughter")

Here's somebody's half-daughter.

 

[BobK]

:up:. Note that the suggested term 'half-daughter' makes no genetic sense - it can't be done. Children that share one parent are half-brothers/sisters; half* their genes are the same. I suppose you could crefer to a man's niece as his 'quarter*-daughter' - we just don't. ;-)

b

PS * This was wrong; I was forgetting my Mendelian peas (let alone qs). I guess my 'quarter-daughter' should have been 'eighth-'. Biology was never my Thing. ;-)

 

[Chicken Sandwich]

Children that share one parent are half-brothers/sisters; half their genes are the same.

Full siblings share on average 50% of their genes with each other, half-siblings share only 25% on average.