Ça

[Odessa Dawn]

Ç; voiceless palatal fricative
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More: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/IPA_chart_2005.png
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Is the below transcription correct?

Ça/tʃa/

Context: "Plus ça change..."
More: Plus ça change (plus c'est la même chose). - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online
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[bhaisahab]

Ç; voiceless palatal fricative
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More: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/IPA_chart_2005.png
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Is the below transcription correct?

Ça/tʃa/

Context: "Plus ça change..."
More: Plus ça change (plus c'est la même chose). - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online
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Yes.

 

[BobK]

Really :-? It's a fricative, not an affricate. Everyone I've ever heard say it - French and English - say /sa/. Francophones use a different vowel (and English speakers rarely manage the [y] of plus), but the fricative part is a simple /s/ (which again is probably different as between English and French speakers, but not in a way that stops the fricative being a fricative)....

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[Tdol]

I use /s/.

 

[konungursvia]

Sorry, but /tʃa/ is incorrect as a transcription of ça.

It should read /sa/.

(Edit: and it is a contraction of 'cela.')

Ç; voiceless palatal fricative
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More: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/IPA_chart_2005.png
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Is the below transcription correct?

Ça/tʃa/

Context: "Plus ça change..."
More: Plus ça change (plus c'est la même chose). - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online
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[BobK]

/tʃa:/ is a drink. ;-)

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[Tdol]

And a bit of a dance. ;-)

 

[bhaisahab]

I'm sorry, I don't know anything about phonetics and I misunderstood the symbols.

 

[5jj]

There is some confusion here.

The letter ‘[FONT=&quot]ç’[/FONT][FONT=&quot] in the French word 'ça' is pronounced .[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The IPA symbol [ç] is very close to the English [/FONT]/tʃ/

 

[BobK]

And a bit of a dance. ;-)

And as for a 'Tea Dance' ... ;-)

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[Raymott]

And as for a 'Tea Dance' ... ;-)

b

Or a tea dance after a fire.

 

[konungursvia]

Or a tea dance after a fire.

Or a chai masala nyrtla.

 

[BobK]

Or a tea-dance after a fire with a vegetable that looks like a cross between rhubarb and celery. But this is getting silly.

b

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