Agreed. What's the issue? Let's define it. :-D Should we start a new thread? :?:I think we can continue this discussion on the larger issue; What does it matter if it's standard English or not?
Agreed. What's the issue? Let's define it. :-D Should we start a new thread? :?:I think we can continue this discussion on the larger issue; What does it matter if it's standard English or not?
Let's keep the continuity, riverkid, and end one topic before starting a new one. You've questions to answer. ;-)
But the crux of the matter is that we are talking about Standard usage; i.e., dinhen's question, 'Should I say...?"should, auxiliary verb. Used to express obligation or duty: You should send her a note. 2. Used to express probability or expectation: They should arrive at noon.
I agree wholeheartedly with you there. However, meandering up this and that tributary isn't helping the poster with his question. Some streams lead to swamps, others to waterfalls.
Do you feel your response to dihen did that?
Agreed. What's the issue? Let's define it. :-D Should we start a new thread? :?:
No I'm not aware of that. I probably should have said "Do I say...?". I said "Should I say...?" because I just happen to translate the word corresponding to the one in my native language as "should", even though actually, in my native language, a word that means something similar to "need to" would be used there; therefore that sentence would start with "Do I need to say...?" if I translated more literally, but that would not be what I mean to say either.Please note that, dihen asked, "Should I say...?", not What do people say? Dihen is aware that there's a variation out there - hence the question.
:-D Glad to have that cleared up. Thanks, Dihen. :-D
Now, to your question. As a response for "I don't like it", standard usage is 'Neither do I'; informal or colloquial usage is 'Me neither'. You'll find that speakers will and do say 'Me either'. It's neither informal nor colloquial; it's considered non-standard usage at this point in time. Which is to say that the more people use it, the more popular it will become, and the more likely it will become colloquial usage. That's going to be awhile, though. ;-)
Does that help? :-D
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[me either]'s neither informal nor colloquial; it's considered non-standard usage at this point in time.
AHD
colloquial
SYLLABICATION: col·lo·qui·al
ADJECTIVE: 1. Characteristic of or appropriate to the spoken language or to writing that seeks the effect of speech; informal. 2. Relating to conversation; conversational.
colloquial. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
Nonstandard English
There are many expressions and grammatical constructions that are not normally used in Standard English. These include regional expressions, such as might could, and other usages, such as ain’t and it don’t, that are typically associated with dialects used by people belonging to less prestigious social groups.
These nonstandard varieties of English are no less logical or systematic than Standard English. In this book an expression labeled nonstandard is not wrong; it is merely inappropriate for ordinary usage in Standard English.
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Informal English This is a broad category applied to situations in which it is not necessary, and in many cases not even desirable, to use the conventions of formal discourse. Informal language incorporates many of the familiar features of spoken English, especially the tendency to use contractions and to abbreviate sentences by omitting certain elements.
Introduction. The American Heritage Book of English Usage. 1996
Are "I don't either." and "Nor do I." possible?:-D Glad to have that cleared up. Thanks, Dihen. :-D
Now, to your question. As a response for "I don't like it", standard usage is 'Neither do I'; informal or colloquial usage is 'Me neither'.
Are "I don't either." and "Nor do I." possible?
Absolutely. However, I suggest omitting the periods in that sentence.Are "I don't either." and "Nor do I." possible?