Lycidas
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A recent thread here caused me to wonder whether phrases like "physical education," "special education," etc., are proper nouns in sentences like these:
(1) She teaches physical education.
(2) She teaches special education.
It was agreed that it won't do to say:
(3) *She teaches education.
And the thread was closed after it was observed that modifying the adjective preceding "education" is absurd in sentences like (1) and (2).
(1') *! She teaches metaphysical education / partly physical education.
(2') *! She teaches very special education.
These two facts suggest that "physical education" and "special education" do not behave like normal noun phrases in such sentences, where they refer to subjects that can be taught. It seems to me that they may be proper nouns. My question here is whether they are.
It occurs to me that we can even put attributive nouns before the adjective in such cases. We can't do this in noun phrases formed with common nouns:
(4) She teaches grade-school physical education.
(5) *She likes apple delicious pie.
If they proper nouns, should they not be capitalized? Are there any other proper nouns, apart from the names of some eccentrics, that are not capitalized? Yes, the names of school subjects are not normally capitalized. But, absent context, how can we know to what "physical education" refers in the following sentence?
(6) Physical education appeals to me more than online education does.
Does that mean that I like P.E. more than I like taking classes on the Internet, or that I prefer in-person education to online education?
(1) She teaches physical education.
(2) She teaches special education.
It was agreed that it won't do to say:
(3) *
And the thread was closed after it was observed that modifying the adjective preceding "education" is absurd in sentences like (1) and (2).
(1') *! She teaches metaphysical education / partly physical education.
(2') *! She teaches very special education.
These two facts suggest that "physical education" and "special education" do not behave like normal noun phrases in such sentences, where they refer to subjects that can be taught. It seems to me that they may be proper nouns. My question here is whether they are.
It occurs to me that we can even put attributive nouns before the adjective in such cases. We can't do this in noun phrases formed with common nouns:
(4) She teaches grade-school physical education.
(5) *
If they proper nouns, should they not be capitalized? Are there any other proper nouns, apart from the names of some eccentrics, that are not capitalized? Yes, the names of school subjects are not normally capitalized. But, absent context, how can we know to what "physical education" refers in the following sentence?
(6) Physical education appeals to me more than online education does.
Does that mean that I like P.E. more than I like taking classes on the Internet, or that I prefer in-person education to online education?
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