[Vocabulary] Can 'to puzzle' be intransitive?

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Here is a sentence from a novel by Carson McCullers, The Members of the Wedding:

And then, on the last Friday of August, all this was changed:it was so sudden that Frankie puzzled the whole blank afternoon, and still she did not understand.

Is the use of 'puzzled' grammatical in this instance, or is it idiosyncratic?
 
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Yes, "puzzled" is used as a verb meaning "thought hard about something".
 

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It does not sound particularly natural to me. We normally use intransitive puzzle with a preposition such as over.
 

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Remember that this is creative writing, written by an expert user. It's neither ungrammatical nor idiosyncratic nor unnatural.
 

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This native speaker did not find it very natural.
 

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I don't find it natural either. I stopped and reread the sentence when I first saw it in post 1, then I convinced myself that simply using "puzzled" to mean "thought hard and slightly confusedly" was perhaps just old-fashioned.
Certainly, today I would expect to see "Frankie puzzled over it" or similar.

Constantinusphilo, please tell us in what year that book was first published.
 

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This native speaker did not find it very natural.
Me neither. I'd definitely put it in "idiosyncratic" territory.
 

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I'm in the same camp as jutfrank on this one. Unusual is not the same as unnatural to me.
 

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What do we mean by 'unnatural', then?

I agree it's unusual to use puzzle intransitively, but I can't see how it's unnatural.
 
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In 1946, and its author comes somewhere from the South of the US.
 

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I agree it's unusual to use puzzle intransitively, but I can't see how it's unnatural.
Well, I thought it was probably not written by a native speaker. Is that clear enough?
 
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My daughter who lives in the American South has never heard this objectless intransitive use of puzzle, so I guess that either McCullers coined it or it has faded from use since 1946.
 
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