Rewrite these sentences

[kimhaze]

1. We suffer bad luck on bad luck.
No sooner.....................................
2. A heating can save you from bearing the cold.
Install..........................................
3. No one expected his appearance.
He...............................................
4. It is a long way by road but not by train.
Going...........................................
5. Be more careful in your writing.
You are not...................................

I am not sure with my answers so it's great if you can check them for me

1. No sooner we had a bad luck than another bad luck
2. Install a heating and you will be saved from bearing the cold.
3. He had an unexpected appearance.
4. Going by road is longer than by train.
5. You are not careful enough in your writing.

Thanks

 

[birdeen's call]

I'd like to discuss the third one only. First of all, your answer could be rewritten this way:

He appeared unexpectedly.

It's more natural.

But I think neither is the correct answer. The original sentence means something else. Your answer implies that he actually appeared. The original sentence does not imply that. It only says his appearance was not expected. We don't know whether he appeared or not.

My answer would be:

He wasn't expected.

 

[SoothingDave]

You would install a "heater" not a "heating." You could say "a heating system."

 

[kimhaze]

Oh... I see. I think your answer is much better
He appeared unexpectedly
thanks

 

[birdeen's call]

Oh... I see. I think your answer is much better
He appeared unexpectedly
thanks

"He appeared unexpectedly" is an incorrect answer.

 

[kimhaze]

Oops. Sorry. I meant to type "He wasn't expected" but somehow I typed "He appeared unexpectedly"

 

[Rover_KE]

"He appeared unexpectedly" is an incorrect answer.

It looks good to me, BC.

What's your objection to it?

Rover

 

[birdeen's call]

It looks good to me, BC.

What's your objection to it?

Rover

I explained in my first post. It doesn't mean the same as the original sentence in my opinion.

 

[Rover_KE]

You're right. I get it now.

Rover

 

[Barb_D]

It was a pretty perceptive catch. I didn't notice the ambiguity in the original at all until BC pointed it out.

 

[Raymott]

1. We suffer bad luck on bad luck.
No sooner.....................................
2. A heating can save you from bearing the cold.
Install..........................................
3. No one expected his appearance.
He...............................................
4. It is a long way by road but not by train.
Going...........................................
5. Be more careful in your writing.
You are not...................................

I am not sure with my answers so it's great if you can check them for me

1. No sooner we had a bad luck than another bad luck
2. Install a heating and you will be saved from bearing the cold.
3. He had an unexpected appearance.
4. Going by road is longer than by train.
5. You are not careful enough in your writing.

Thanks

1. is difficult. The important thing is to invert the verb and subject though. "No sooner did we suffer... had we suffered...
"No sooner did we have bad luck than we suffered another disaster."
"No sooner had we experienced one piece of bad luck than we got another."
Perhaps closest to the original, "No sooner did we have bad luck than we had more bad luck."
Note, we don't have "a luck" or "a bad luck".

 

[kimhaze]

1. is difficult. The important thing is to invert the verb and subject though. "No sooner did we suffer... had we suffered...
"No sooner did we have bad luck than we suffered another disaster."
"No sooner had we experienced one piece of bad luck than we got another."
Perhaps closest to the original, "No sooner did we have bad luck than we had more bad luck."
Note, we don't have "a luck" or "a bad luck".

Thank you
I thought in "no sooner" sentences, we should use past perfect tense and simple past?
1- No sooner had we experienced one piece of bad luck than we got another.
2- No sooner did we have bad luck than we had more bad luck.
In the second sentence you use past simple for both. It is ok?
And is the first one right?

 

[5jj]

I thought in "no sooner" sentences, we should use past perfect tense and simple past?

Not necessarily.
No sooner do I stop to draw breath than she jumps in with a fresh complaint.

 

[Raymott]

Thank you
I thought in "no sooner" sentences, we should use past perfect tense and simple past?
1- No sooner had we experienced one piece of bad luck than we got another.
2- No sooner did we have bad luck than we had more bad luck.
In the second sentence you use past simple for both. It is ok?
And is the first one right?

Would I have written them as examples if they were not right? ;-)
You don't need to follow the past perfect with the simple past here.
"No sooner did he get sick than he died."
The sequence of occurrences is quite clear, and there's no need to signal it with different tenses.

 

[kimhaze]

Oh thank you. Because I haven't been taught about that. They taught me as I said above ^^~

 

[Raymott]

Oh thank you. Because I haven't been taught about that. They taught me as I said above ^^~

I know. Beginners' rules are a perennial source of confusion to students who have achieved a certain level. But I can't see a solution to the problem. Many teachers themselves do not even know that these simplified rules don't work in many real-language contexts.

 

[5jj]

Beginners' rules are a perennial source of confusion to students who have achieved a certain level. But I can't see a solution to the problem. Many teachers themselves do not even know that these simplified rules don't work in many real-language contexts.

As we see all tooo often in discussions in this forum.:roll: