Go Back   UsingEnglish.com ESL Forum > English ESL Questions > Advanced


Poll: Which is correct?
Be advised that this is a public poll: other users can see the choice(s) you selected.
Poll Options
Which is correct?

Like Tree3Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 03-Feb-2007, 11:48
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9
Member Type: Student or Learner
Arrow Re: Apostrophes

years --'s' here is plural S not possessive s so the first sentence is true
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-Apr-2007, 16:19
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 45
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: Apostrophes

As ı could remember ı ve come across a sentence like the one which is apostrophed.
thennn
you native speakers! tell us the exact onee pleaseee
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 23-May-2007, 01:28
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: Apostrophes

To Panjandrum:

Apostrophes are used for two purposes: to show possession and in contractions.

POSESSION
In the case of the expression "a winter's day" the day belongs to winter. However, in this case, the years don't belong to the jail. Do you understand?

CONTRACTIONS
I cannot swim. OR I can't swim.
They both mean the exact same thing, it's just an abbreviation.
But this case doesn't use contractions.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 23-May-2007, 02:03
Key Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,043
Home Country: United States
Native Language: English
Current Location: United States
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: Apostrophes

I would write: The crime can be punished by up to ten years in jail.

None of the other choices (with or without apostrophes) sound correct to my AE ear.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 25-May-2007, 10:47
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: Apostrophes

According to Advanced Grammar in Use by Martin Hewings, Unit 53, both of ten years' jail and ten-year jail are correct..
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 30-May-2007, 05:56
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,044
Home Country: Sweden
Native Language: Swedish
Current Location: Sweden
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: Apostrophes

There's a slight difference in meaning between ten years' jail and ten-year jail, though.

Ex.:

Ten years' jail is a real waste of human life. (or: ten years in jail is...)
He received a ten-year jail sentence.

bianca

Last edited by bianca; 30-May-2007 at 10:10.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 16-Apr-2008, 11:34
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 8
Member Type: Other
Default Re: Apostrophes

A simple way of explaining this is to talk about "one year's jail". If it's one year in jail, why is there an "s" on the end of year? It's not there to signify that it's plural, so it must be there to signify possession. In which case it does have an apostrophe. So, "five years' jail" is correct.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 23-Apr-2008, 11:22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 835
Home Country: France
Native Language: French
Current Location: France
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: Apostrophes

I follow daizee. The second one is right. Look at his explanation.

The crime can be punished by up to ten years' jail.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 28-Apr-2008, 12:04
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 301
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: Apostrophes

What about this one? Does it sound correct?:

The crime can be punished by up to ten years of jail.
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-Oct-2008, 01:14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,211
Home Country: United States
Native Language: English
Current Location: Canada
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: Apostrophes

I think the expression "... ten years' time" suggests a more correct meaning. It's the time that punishes, not the ten years. The ten years are simply a qualifying length of that time.

Proof? Try changing it from 10 years to 1 year.

Aha! Can't do it without an apostrophe, can you!

(and that would be ... a year's time, not a years' time, eh!)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
apostrophes


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Apostrophes Tdol Beginner 26 21-Nov-2011 06:45
Apostrophes Anonymous Ask a Teacher 5 16-Apr-2008 11:24
Apostrophes. Tibbs Ask a Teacher 3 18-Sep-2004 13:47
Apostrophes and Time Expressions markbarnard General Language Discussions 3 06-Mar-2003 17:06


All times are GMT. The time now is 14:08.



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.