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Old 04-Nov-2006, 06:26
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however is always isoleted by a comma.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not true. Consider the sentence:

However expensive, they still bought it.

"You can use however before an adjective or adverb to emphasize that the degree or extend of something cannot change a situation" (Cobuild)

E.g. However hard she tried, nothing seemed to work


In these cases, no comma is required; actually, you can't use a comma.
*However, hard she tried, nothing seemed to work
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My teacher told us the difference between these two words when I was in junior 2. We focused too much on grammar.
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Old 03-Apr-2007, 10:08
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Question Re: Although or However?

Yes its expensive and cheap and ugly etc so here we use however . idont need it

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Yes its expensive and cheap and ugly etc so here we use althought . i need it

its true or false ?
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When use as a discourse marker (to help you organise your ideas and set logical relations between them in the discourse) 'however' establishes a contrast, but not between ideas within the same sentence but between ideas in different sentences (adjoining sentences or paragraphs). Although expresses 'concession', and it is a conjunction.
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They bought it, although it was expensive.
Although it was expensive, they still bought it.

(Still is superfluous)

They bought it; however, it was expensive.

However is not a conjunction but an adverb; therefore (that acts like however) a new clause should start.

Although and though are conjunctions; therefore they can join sentences together but do not blindly put commas everywhere.
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Old 05-Nov-2009, 16:05
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Surely however, the however in however hard she tried, nothing seemed to work is different from he was born in Paris; however, he is not French?

The however in however hard she tried, has a different function and hence a different meaning to my however for the former is synoymous with the phrase
no matter how hard she tried ...
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Old 21-Dec-2009, 16:18
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I agree, but the usage seems unusual? "However (it was) expensive, they still bought it". They bought it no matter how expensive it was.
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Ilva you may check it up in a dictionary:
Although:
- despite the fact : she walked home by herself, although she knew that it was dangerous
- but : She'll be coming tonight, although I don't know exactly when.

In Spanish we say aunque

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cause this talks about contrast you the conjunctions of adverbs of contrast they are (Though,Although,Even though) use this if still have problem. Good luck friend........
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