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Old 10-Dec-2006, 07:19
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BNC results:

1 I HAD BETTER 68
1 I BETTER 138

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1 I HAD BETTER 68 0.68
1 I BETTER 138 1.38
What do those numbers mean, Tdol? Did you check <I'd better>

If it's not too much trouble, could you run,

You had better

You'd better

You better
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Old 10-Dec-2006, 23:04
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I voted for option 2: had better not.
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I voted for option 2: had better not.
Me too.
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had better is a modal verb it looks like past but the meaning is present it is astrong advice and after had better not this is the correct one
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this is the correct form.
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Old 17-Feb-2007, 15:02
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The American Heritage® Book of English Usage. 1996. Page 18
You had better not do that or You’d better not do that.
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Does anyone really understand this structure? To be honest, it escapes me.
You had better not do it = You`d better not do it = You better [in spoken English]not do it.

This idiomatic expression might sound as a recommendation or as a warning:

You had better not do it.[or else you`ll get into trouble]
You had better not do it. [or else I`ll punish you]
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You'd better not do it. (present/future)
You'd better not have done it. (past)
Is this second sentence commonly used in spoken English? I think that English speakers prefer shouldn`t have done although there`s a slight difference [ if any?] between them.
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Yes, it is used; it can convey more force than 'shouldn't'.
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