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17-May-2004, 16:09
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Hi and thanks for the warm welcome :) |
02-Apr-2006, 12:19
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First Language: Cantonese | |  Re: Nevertheless\Nonetheless
theyre the same arent they? |
02-Apr-2006, 14:15
| | Editor, UsingEnglish.com | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Country: UK
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Current Location: Phnom Penh First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: Nevertheless\Nonetheless
Yes, they are.  |
11-Apr-2006, 20:57
| | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Country: Bremen - Germany
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Current Location: Germany First Language: English Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Nevertheless\Nonetheless
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Originally Posted by RonBee "Either" means "Nethertheless" or "Nonetheless". In other words, choose one or the other. They are equally valid. If your choice is based on which is correct to use then "Either" is definitely the right choice.
:) | Yes, I agree with Tdol both have the same meaning and are used in formal communication. Perhaps "nevertheless" has a higher usage frequency than "nonetheless". Another difference has to do with word order. "Nonethless" can occur in final position as in: The texts are old but a lot of people are interested, nonethless.
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12-Apr-2006, 07:13
|  | Newbie | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Country: Albania
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Current Location: Albania First Language: albanian Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: Nevertheless\Nonetheless
Hello!
Well, I thought the right answer was " nevertheless", because It'doesn't sound good, 'nonetheless",  , anyway, you know better the same meaning of this two words.. 
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09-Nov-2006, 02:52
| | Newbie | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Country: pakistan
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Current Location: Pakistan First Language: Urdu Member Type: Student or Learner | | lay down or lie down?
Hi everyone, This is Ali here, I'm a newbie and joined this website/forum just now, and boom! I already have a question.
I've heard americans say, 'I'm going to lay down' where as it should be 'I'm going to lie down'. I understand it might be simply a colloquial way of saying it, but it sounds so ridiculous as if they have never been to school. why so much ignorance?  |
09-Nov-2006, 03:12
| | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Country: Brazil
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Current Location: Brazil First Language: Portuguese Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: lay down or lie down?
Ali, you made me laugh out loud here! I was aware of the colloquial use or maybe wrong use of lay and lie, but to ask it the way you just have was hilarious!hehehe |
09-Nov-2006, 04:07
|  | VIP Member | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Country: USA
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Current Location: New York First Language: American English Member Type: Academic | | Re: lay down or lie down?
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Originally Posted by alijawed  Hi everyone, This is Ali here, I'm a newbie and joined this website/forum just now, and boom! I already have a question.
I've heard americans say, 'I'm going to lay down' where as it should be 'I'm going to lie down'. I understand it might be simply a colloquial way of saying it, but it sounds so ridiculous as if they have never been to school. why so much ignorance? | Ignorance might be a bit harsh. Hardly anyone is perfect in English. For example, some people don't capitalize Americans or the first word of every sentence. |
09-Nov-2006, 09:22
| | Editor, UsingEnglish.com | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Country: UK
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Current Location: Phnom Penh First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: lay down or lie down?
The 'lay down' usage is also found in some regions in the UK. |
09-Nov-2006, 20:46
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Current Location: New York First Language: American English Member Type: Academic | | Re: lay down or lie down?
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Originally Posted by Tdol The 'lay down' usage is also found in some regions in the UK. | It is very common in the Midwest US. It took me years to correct the habit and I still slip at times. Is there a 12-step program for this?  | | |
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