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Talking of xxx, China is a xxx--accepted dangling?
I do appreciate so many people have participated in the 'judging from' thread of mine and it seems people have reached a consensus that the dangling arising from there is acceptable.
My question here is: can 'talking of ' be regarded as an example of acceptable danglings as well?
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Talking of human rights, China is a big violator.----Is the dangling here acceptable? Thank you.
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Re: Talking of xxx, China is a xxx--accepted dangling?

Originally Posted by
LiuJing
I do appreciate so many people have participated in the 'judging from' thread of mine and it seems people have reached a consensus that the dangling arising from there is acceptable.
My question here is: can 'talking of ' be regarded as an example of acceptable danglings as well?
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Talking of human rights, China is a big violator.----Is the dangling here acceptable? Thank you.
I'd accept that in speech, not in academic writing.
In speech, you can't see the punctuation; in writing, you can think of a better way to express it.
You mean "[Since we're] talking of human rights, [I believe that] China is a big violator."
[I didn't read the previous thread.]
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Re: Talking of xxx, China is a xxx--accepted dangling?

Originally Posted by
LiuJing
I do appreciate so many people have participated in the 'judging from' thread of mine and it seems people have reached a consensus that the dangling arising from there is acceptable.
My question here is: can 'talking of ' be regarded as an example of acceptable danglings as well?
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Talking of human rights, China is a big violator.----Is the dangling here acceptable? Thank you.
***** NOT A TEACHER *****
Hello, LiuJing.
(1) Thanks again for your "judging from" thread. I learned SO much.
(2) This one is much easier (I think!!!).
(3) Professors Pence & Emery in their A Grammar of Present-Day English explain:
(a) Yes, your sentence is technically a dangling participle. And it's FINE!
(b) But it is so popular that many grammar books give it a fancier name:
absolute participles.
(a) "Absolute" sentences are considered "good" English. For example:
(i) THE TEACHER BEING ILL, we returned home.
(4) The good professors give this example:
Speaking of baseball, where is [I deleted the baseball player's name] now?
(5) They list SOME of the participles that are used absolutely:
allowing
concerning
owing
speaking
talking
(a) They also point out that in certain kinds of sentences, some of those participles are also considered prepositions:
He will say nothing CONCERNING HIS PART IN THE AFFAIR.
***** THANK YOU *****
Last edited by TheParser; 20-Jun-2010 at 18:07.
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