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I was wriing an essay, and I made a sentence "it makes the argument that teachers deserve higher salary unreliable" It looks a little bit unnatural since the phrase in object position is so long. Is there a good way to solve this?
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Originally Posted by
zzang418lee
I was wri[t]ing an essay, and I made wrote a sentence "it makes the argument that teachers deserve [a] higher salary unreliable" It looks a little bit unnatural since the phrase in object position is so long. Is there a good way to solve this?
I like the structure. It works, but the word 'unreliable' doesn't.
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Re: Thank you teachers:)

Originally Posted by
zzang418lee
I was writing an essay, and I made a sentence "it makes the argument that teachers deserve higher salary unreliable" It looks a little bit unnatural since the phrase in object position is so long. Is there a good way to solve this?
"it makes the argument that teachers deserve higher salary unreliable"
To make this a valid sentence, you need to capitalise the first letter and put a full stop at the end. Otherwise it's a good sentence.
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Originally Posted by
Gillnetter
What do you think this sentence means?
It (= something already mentioned) makes a certain argument unreliable.
Which argument does it make unreliable?
The argument that teachers deserve a higher salary.
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I'm pretty sure 'unreliable' is not the right word here.
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Originally Posted by
Raymott
I'm pretty sure 'unreliable' is not the right word here.
I agree. I was concentrating on the structure.
IMO, unreliable is not impossible, but I would prefer unsound/invalid/indefensible?/untenable?
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Originally Posted by
Gillnetter
Yes, but shouldn't it be - it makes the argument that teachers deserve a higher salary unreliable"
Indeed. That had gone previously unremarked, so I just put it into my version without comment. You are right - it needs to be pointed out that the original version also needs the article.
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Re: Thank you teachers:)
I missed the absence of the article, sorry. I agree that "unreliable" is perhaps not the best word to use but it's not incorrect.
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Originally Posted by
bhaisahab
I missed the absence of the article, sorry. I agree that "unreliable" is perhaps not the best word to use but it's not incorrect.
Agreed. It's not incorrect, just vague.
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Originally Posted by
fivejedjon
...
IMO,
unreliable is not impossible, but I would prefer
unsound/invalid/indefensible?/untenable?
... or, indeed, any other word that collocates* with "argument" - "disputable", "without [firm] foundation", "shaky", "questionable", "ridiculous", "puerile", "fatuous" .... They don't mean the same, but they're all possible. 
b
PS * 'Collocation" [='placing with'] has to be stronger if the words aren't next to each other; so I'd be tempted, in a case where I found 'unreliable' to be le mot juste, to rewrite the sentence to make the words "argument" and "unreliable" 'co-locate'!
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