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    Hello,

    What is the meaning of 'fair dos to him'? I saw it in the following statement:


    The former Fulham player Kit Symons, who is now Under-18s manager at Fulham, defended Al Fayed's decision. "It is great," he said. "The big thing is it is obviously something that the chairman feels very, very passionately about and he has decided to erect this statue and fair dos to him."
    It is from a news story about Al Fayed installing a Michael Jackson statue.

    Thank you

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    Default Re: "fair dos to him"

    Though in the example on that page, it might have read like this is the past: Fair DOS, Josh. You've been on the computer for hours - let your sister use it for a while!
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    Default Re: "fair dos to him"

    A variant, especially suited to the Fulham context, is 'fair play to him' - often used in the footballing world (with a similar meaning [typically when someone has done something that you wouldn't have done, but recognizing that his intentions were good and his efforts are to be applauded]).

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    Default Re: "fair dos to him"

    Quote Originally Posted by Olympian View Post
    Hello,

    What is the meaning of 'fair dos to him'? I saw it in the following statement:

    The former Fulham player Kit Symons, who is now Under-18s manager at Fulham, defended Al Fayed's decision. "It is great," he said. "The big thing is it is obviously something that the chairman feels very, very passionately about and he has decided to erect this statue and fair dos to him."
    It is from a news story about Al Fayed installing a Michael Jackson statue.

    Thank you
    To be honest English allows virtually any French idiom among educated speakers. I wonder if it means "faire dos", turn away, turn one's back?

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    Default Re: "fair dos to him"

    The trouble is the apostrophe, which demonstrates that the vowel is /u:/. When it's spelt 'dos' - as it is in the thread title - it invites a misunderstood /ɒ/ vowel. When you say "fair do's" of or to someone, there is no sense of turning your back: dos is a faux ami. (Some people disapprove of such apostrophes; I'm not a fan myself. But I don't see how to avoid it in this case.)

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    Default Re: "fair dos to him"

    It is also something that is far more common in speech than in writing so the problem doesn't arise that often, and here it seems to be a quote.

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    Default Re: "fair dos to him"

    I admit I've seldom heard it, so again I propose another probably incorrect reading: could it have to do with giving someone his dues?.... I don't see do's here as making much sense (I am thinking of do's and don'ts)...

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    Default Re: "fair dos to him"

    Thank you all for your responses.

    @Bobk - Thanks for the football information. That makes sense.

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    @freezeframe, thanks for the link. :)
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