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    In this room, there are five people that are unemployed.
    Would dropping "that are" cause some ungrammaticality or change the meaning of the sentence?

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    When referring to people, we generally use the relative pronoun who. ...five people who are unemployed.

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    So, would dropping "that/who are" cause some ungrammaticality or change the meaning of the sentence?

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    It would sound awkward to my ear unless you changed the position of the adjective.

    "In this room there are five unemployed people."

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    So, almost identical answers to the similar question you posed in the other thread.

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    David Cameron: we will offer the radical new direction the country is crying out for - Telegraph
    But the crisis we face today is not just about debt – it's about jobs. There are already two and a half million people unemployed. That could rise as high as three million.

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    Is there a rule for when to move an adjective to right after a noun?

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    Quote Originally Posted by ShirleyLing View Post
    Is there a rule for when to move an adjective to the right after a noun?
    It's not a case of 'moving the adjective to the right'. It is dropping the relative pronoun and BE before a participle or adjective.

    There is only the common-sense rule not to do it - it sometimes sounds unnatural.
    Last edited by 5jj; 30-Jul-2011 at 09:01.

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    Quote Originally Posted by ShirleyLing View Post
    Would dropping "that are" cause some ungrammaticality or change the meaning of the sentence?
    No, it wouldn't.

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    Default Re: that are (2)

    So, the example cited in post #6 (from some newspaper) is error free?

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