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    The man is unhappy working with a partner who shirks from his dueties.

    The verb ''shirk'' should be used without a preposition. Am I right?

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    Default Re: Shirk

    Quote Originally Posted by arzgol View Post
    The man is unhappy working with a partner who shirksfrom his dueties.

    The verb ''shirk'' should be used without a preposition. Am I right?
    Yes
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    Default Re: Shirk

    Perhaps the errant 'from' comes from false analogy with 'shrink from'... (To shrink from doing something is to avoid or be slow to do it not from laziness but from fear, loathing, or disgust.)

    I often see 'shirk' used intransitively, so the choice of preposition isn't an issue: 'Nobody likes a team member who shirks'.

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    Default Re: Shirk

    Sorry, you didn't hit the nail on the head this time. I made a mistake because in Farsi we use the preposition ''from'' , similarly '' be agree with''! In my sentence, I meant ''shirk'', ''He is unhappy working with a partner who shirks his dueties''. But, you made a good point. Thank you, I've learned something. I looked ''shrink from'' up in my Longman dictionary. It means to avoid doing something difficult or unpleasant : The leadership too often shrinks from hard decisions.
    But ''Shirk'' means to deliberately avoid doing something you should do, because you are lazy : He was fired for shirking.
     
     

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    Default Re: Shirk

    Do we say "He shirks from carrying out his duties"?

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    Default Re: Shirk

    Quote Originally Posted by suprunp View Post
    Do we say "He shirks from carrying out his duties"?
    No.

    5jj confirmed in message #2 that shirk is not used with a preposition.

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    Default Re: Shirk

    Collins Cobuild Advanced Learner’s English Dictionary.
    Shirk
    shirks, shirking, shirked
    VERB: usu with neg

    [V n] We in the Congress have our role to play, and we can't shirk our responsibility...
    [V from -ing/n] The Government will not shirk from considering the need for further action. [Also V]
    Is this a mistake?

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    Default Re: Shirk

    No. I can't argue with that.

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    Default Re: Shirk

    When I read that dictionary entry, I wondered for a moment whether I had made a mistake. However, 97% of COCA's 346 examples of all forms of SHIRK in use do not contain 'from', so it' seems to be pretty uncommon.
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