in order for them to

[Csika]

Dear Forum Users,

I am writing an essay and I want to say that we do not need to know that, for instance, 'This surgeon is a butcher' is a metaphor (or whatever), we understand the meaning.

Can I say:

"These figures of speech need not be named in order for them to operate in meaning construction"?

Thank you.

Csika

[5jj]

Can I say:

"These figures of speech need not be named in order for them to operate in meaning construction"?

No.

You need to be more specific, for example:We do not need to label a metaphor as such in order to (be able to) understand it.

or:

We need to recognise a metaphor in order to (be able to) understand it.

[Csika]

Is 'in order for them to' technically possible in the original post?

Csika

[emsr2d2]

Is 'in order for them to' technically possible in the original post?

Csika

I suppose you could say "Metaphors do not be named/identified/labeled in order for them to be understood".

[Csika]

I suppose you could say "Metaphors do not be named/identified/labeled in order for them to be understood".

How about this one:

Metaphors should not be named so that people could understand them.?

Is the part in bold correct?

Csika

[bhaisahab]

I suppose you could say "Metaphors do not be named/identified/labeled in order for them to be understood".

I'm sorry, but "Metaphors do not be named" seems wrong to me.