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    This is me at the valley of the kings .

    This is I at the valley of the kings .

    please help me which pronoun is the correct one .I or me .

    I know that after verb to be we prefer to use subject pronouns .In informal English I hear them use object pronouns after verb to be .


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    I love this forum It is very useful and helpful .
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    Default Re: Help me please

    This is [a picture of] me at the Valley of the Kings.

    I would never, ever use "I" there.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I would never, ever use "I" there.
    Nor would I. It sounds just wrong.
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    Another vote for me.
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    thank you very much .you are great people

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    [QUOTE=bassemsayed;818796]This is me at the valley of the kings .

    This is I at the valley of the kings .


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    Teacher Bassemsayed,

    (1) The Editor, a moderator, and a teacher have reminded us that native speakers would NOT say "I." That is excellent advice for all teachers of English to share with their students.

    (2) Non-teachers such as I are currently allowed to give our two cents, so I most respectfully suggest, however, that if one of your students uses "I," s/he should not be told that it is "wrong." Just tell them that it is not idiomatic (the way native speakers use the language in the real world).

    (3) It is only my opinion that the word "this" in your sentence does not refer to a picture:

    Tom: Can I look at the pictures that you took in the Valley of the Kings?

    Mona: Sure. Here you are.

    Tom (pointing with his finger): Hey! Who is this person wearing the ugly hat?

    Mona (laughing and pointing with her finger): This (person) is I.
    Last edited by TheParser; 04-Nov-2011 at 19:03.

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    [QUOTE=TheParser;818922]
    Quote Originally Posted by bassemsayed View Post

    (1) The Editor, a moderator, and a teacher have reminded us that native speakers would say "I." That is excellent advice for all teachers of English to share with their students.
    No we haven't. We all said that it should be "me"!
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    [QUOTE=emsr2d2;819046]
    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post

    No we haven't. We all said that it should be "me"!
    Thank you for pointing that out. I have corrected it. I will try to do a better job of

    of proofreading next time before clicking the "submit reply" button.

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    Mr the parser thank you for your concern about my thread . I understand from your words that this is I is correct




    It is only my opinion that the word "this" in your sentence does not refer to a picture:

    no,it refers to a picture.

    if it refers to a picture should I use the pronoun I .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassemsayed View Post



    It is only my opinion that the word "this" in your sentence does not refer to a picture:

    no,it refers to a picture.

    if it refers to a picture should I use the pronoun I .

    NOT A TEACHER


    (1) If the word "this" refers to a photograph, then Moderator Barbara gave the answer:

    This is (a picture/photograph of) me. You would have to use "me" because it is the

    object of the preposition "of." As you know, the object is always in the objective

    case: She knows me. (object of the verb "knows.")

    He gave it to me. (object of the preposition "to.")

    (2) According to the rule (which most native speakers no longer follow), if it is not the

    object, you should use the subjective form:

    It is I/ he/she/ /we/ they.

    But -- as the teachers tell us -- almost all native speakers nowadays say:

    It is me/him/her/us/ them.

    But I think that many teachers want to teach their students the rule. Many of the
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    examinations in many countries are based on the rules. Your students want good

    marks. Maybe they should know the rule so that they can pass the examinations.

    So they should write on the exam "It is I who did it." But when they speak

    English in real life, almost everyone accepts "It is me who did it."
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