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    Default Was the journey/travel long?

    My Grammar in Use (Elementary) says

    Don't say "Was the travel long?" and I don't know why.

    PS: Some people say it is because travel is a verb, but travel can be a noun too. ㅡ.ㅡ

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    Default Re: Was the journey/travel long?

    We just don't say that "travel" is long or short.

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    Default Re: Was the journey/travel long?

    Individual 'units of travel' are journeys or trips
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    Default Re: Was the journey/travel long?

    Quote Originally Posted by wotcha View Post
    My Grammar in Use (Elementary) says

    Don't say "Was the travel long?" and I don't know why.

    PS: Some people say it is because travel is a verb, but travel can be a noun too. ㅡ.ㅡ
    The reason is simple. We only ask "Was X long?" if X can be measured (in length or time). "Travel" is an abstract noun, and doesn't have specific properties like this. If you want to refer to a specific instance of travel, as 5jj said, you have to instantiate it with a different word.

    PS: That's an interesting item of punctuation you've used. How should we interpret it?
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    Default Re: Was the journey/travel long?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    The reason is simple. We only ask "Was X long?" if X can be measured (in length or time). "Travel" is an abstract noun, and doesn't have specific properties like this. If you want to refer to a specific instance of travel, as 5jj said, you have to instantiate it with a different word.

    PS: That's an interesting item of punctuation you've used. How should we interpret it?

    You mean this? ㅡ.ㅡ ?
    This is one of the most common emoticons in Korea which means I'm embarrassed or curious or shy or ... sometimes grouchy....and so on. It consists of two Korean vowels and a point between them. ^.^
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    Default Re: Was the journey/travel long?

    Quote Originally Posted by wotcha View Post
    You mean this? ㅡ.ㅡ ?
    This is one of the most common emoticons in Korea which means I'm embarrassed or curious or shy or ... sometimes grouchy....and so on. It consists of two Korean vowels and a point between them. ^.^
    OK, thanks. I'll tuck that away somewhere for when I learn Korean.

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    Default Re: Was the journey/travel long?

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    We just don't say that "travel" is long or short.
    And while 'Was the journey long' would be acceptable in my cases, the more common way of putting it is 'Was it [or 'Have you had'] a long journey?]' When someone has just arrived you can simply ask 'Have you come far?', and spare yourself the bother of wondering which noun to use.

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