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    Default Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Hello

    What I know about conditional 1 and 2 is:
    Conditional 1 - weather forecast for tomorrow: sunny - If the weather is fine, I will go for a walk.
    Conditional 2 - weather forecast for tomorrow: poor - If the weather was fine, I would go for a walk.

    What about a polite request:
    I would like to ask you if you have (or had?) time for a coffee.


    Thank you very much!
    Best regards
    Last edited by the-good-guy; 31-Oct-2012 at 15:53. Reason: it is conditional 1 and 2 (not 2 and 3), sorry
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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by the-good-guy View Post
    Hello

    What I know about conditional 2 and 3 is:
    Conditional 2 - weather forecast: sunny - If the weather is fine, I will go for a walk.
    This is a comment on your future plans

    Conditional 3 - weather forecast: poor - If the weather was fine, I would go for a walk.
    This is a comment of what you did in the past.

    What about a polite request:
    I would like to ask you if you have (or had?) time for a coffee.
    I would like to ask if you have time for coffee - Present - Do you have time now?
    I would like to ask if you had time for coffee - A question about past events.


    Thank you very much!
    Best regards
    Gil

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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    Gil
    I heard that is more polite to ask:
    "I would like to ask if you had time for a coffee."

    Do you agree? Thank you
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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by the-good-guy View Post
    I heard that is more polite to ask:
    "I would like to ask if you had time for a coffee."

    Do you agree?
    It's over-polite to the point of obsequiousness.

    'Have you time for a coffee?' is polite enough for anybody.

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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Thank you,
    'Have you time for a coffee?' is polite enough for anybody.
    How about "Do you time for a coffee?"?
    Is it polite as the above?
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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by the-good-guy View Post
    Conditional 2 - weather forecast for tomorrow: poor - If the weather was fine, I would go for a walk.
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello,

    You have already received an excellent reply from a teacher, so you should accept his answer

    I -- just an ordinary native speaker -- have another opinion (only an opinion):

    1. The weather forecast for tomorrow is poor. So you are not going to go for a walk.

    I believe that either sentence is correct:

    a. If the weather was fine tomorrow [we know that it will not be], I would go for a walk. But since the

    weather will be "poor" tomorrow, I will not go for a walk.

    b. If the weather were fine tomorrow, I would go for a walk.

    NOTES:

    * I believe that many native speakers would say "a."

    * Americans who try to speak "correct" English prefer "b" -- the so-called subjunctive.

    Tom: Are you going for your usual walk tomorrow?

    Mona: No.

    Tom: Why not?

    Mona: The weather will be poor tomorrow.

    Tom: So?

    Mona: Well, if the weather was / were fine tomorrow, I would go for my usual walk. But since the weather

    is going to be poor, I have no intention of going out and possibly getting caught in a downpour [of rain].


    James


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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

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    Hello,

    You accidentally forgot the verb "have":

    Do you have time for a coffee?

    !. I believe that our British friends use "have" to start such questions.

    2. Americans feel more comfortable with "do."

    Tom: Have you a car?
    Mona: No, I haven't.

    Maria: Do you have a car?
    George: No, I don't.


    James
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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    I believe that our British friends use "have" to start such questions.
    Have you got ...is more common these days.
    Context is important. Please provide enough for us to be able to deal effectively with your question.
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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    I am a BrE speaker, and I would not say "Have you a car?" unless I were pretending to be a rather posh person from about 60 years ago.

    I would use either:

    Do you have a car?
    or
    Have you got a car?

    I agree with the others that "I would like to ask you if you had/have time for a coffee" is overly complicated. Apart from anything else, if someone said that to me, I might sarcastically reply "OK. Go on then. Ask me if I have time for a coffee!" All you have said is that you would like to ask me a question. Technically, you haven't actually asked me if I have time for a coffee.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I am a BrE speaker, and I would not say "Have you a car?" unless I were pretending to be a rather posh person from about 60 years ago.
    Or a 66-year-old non-posh person who is past his prime.
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