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    My grammar books says past tense is not compatible with "since", but if your action is not continuous until now, you can use past tense even with "since", can't you?

    gz34) How many love letters did you get from Mike since you first met him?
    => (should be corrected to ) have you gotten
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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    My grammar books says past tense is not compatible with "since", but if your action is not continuous until now, you can use past tense even with "since", can't you?

    gz34) How many love letters did you get from Mike since you first met him?
    => (should be corrected to ) have you got
    Not grammatically. As an American, I'd say "have you gotten" not "have you got" but the present perfect is the right tense.

    If the act of receiving letters is over, don't use "since." (It's a little silly to say "from the time you first met him." One assumes that you did not receive letters before you met him.)
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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    What about this? This is an actual article, which has a one-time past action even with "since". It doesn't have to be "has had" if the interview hasn't lasted until now.
    ex)Tiger Woods had an interview since his life fell apart.

    p/s Sorry, "have you got" was my typing mistake. The original is "have you gotten"

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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    In BrE "have you got", "have you had" and "have you received" would all have been acceptable, but not "have you gotten".
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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    I was more curious about if past tense not present perfect can be used for "since".

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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    I was more curious about if past tense not present perfect can be used for "since".
    Not generally. "Tiger Woods had an interview since his life fell apart" is unnatural. I would use a present perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Not generally. "Tiger Woods had an interview since his life fell apart" is unnatural. I would use a present perfect.
    I agree. I would expect to see "Tiger Woods has had/done/given [only] one interview since his life fell apart".
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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    I seem to have seen an example like this in my grammar book.

    ex)He liked sci-fi movied since he was a kid.

    Along with this, if any sentence shows a past tense with "since", is it a mistake by the writer? I don't know how to explain to Korean students about this.
    Do I have to say that you should generally use present perfect generally with "since" or even a past tense with "since" is also acceptable?

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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    I seem to have seen an example like this in my grammar book.

    ex)He liked sci-fi movied since he was a kid.

    Along with this, if any sentence shows a past tense with "since", is it a mistake by the writer? I don't know how to explain to Korean students about this.
    Do I have to say that you should generally use present perfect generally with "since" or even a past tense with "since" is also acceptable?
    "He liked sci-fi movied since he was a kid." This is incorrect.
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    Default Re: did you get from Mike

    He has liked sci-fi movies since he was a kid.
    He liked sci-fi movies from childhood.
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