Re: "while they were gone"
I wouldn't use "While they were gone to buy oil ..." I would say "While they were away buying oil ..." or "After they had left to buy oil ..."
I don't know if the construction used is natural in AmE, but it's not natural in BrE.
Re: "while they were gone"
I have to have one of my rare disagreements with you there, ems.
X was/were gone is very common in BrE - there are hundreds of citations in the BNC.
Re: "while they were gone"
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5jj
I have to have one of my rare disagreements with you there, ems.
X was/were gone is very common in BrE - there are hundreds of citations in the BNC.
I have no intention of disputing the BNC but for the life of me, I just can't get "while" to sound natural with "was/were gone" (even if the latter construction is correct), when followed by an infinitive. I have no problem with "They went to buy oil. While they were gone, the bridegroom arrived".
"I was gone ..." is a completed action but "while" needs some kind of ongoing action, surely. That's why I suggested "While I was away ..." - "During the time that I was in the state of being away from xxx situation ... something else happened".
While I was on holiday, my house was burgled. :tick:
While I was away on holiday, my house was burgled. :tick:
While I was gone on holiday, my house was burgled. :cross:
While I was out getting bread, my flat burnt down. :tick:
While I was getting bread, my flat burnt down. :tick:
While I was gone to get bread, my flat burnt down. :cross:
The :cross:s are my opinion.
Re: "while they were gone"
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emsr2d2
I just can't get "while" to sound natural with "was/were gone" (even if the latter construction is correct), when followed by an infinitive. I have no problem with "They went to buy oil. While they were gone, the bridegroom arrived".
Sorry. I was thinking of just 'they were gone' and didn't pay enough attention to what followed. I don't disagree with you after all. :-)
Sorry, OD. Ignore my post #3.
Re: "while they were gone"
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5jj
I don't disagree with you after all. :-)
Phew!
Re: "while they were gone"
I think it sounds OK. Don't think of "gone" as a "completed action," think of it as a status. Are they here? No, they're gone. They were gone for a while, but now they are back. So there was a time during which they were gone. While they were gone.
Re: "while they were gone"
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SoothingDave
I think it sounds OK. Don't think of "gone" as a "completed action," think of it as a status. Are they here? No, they're gone. They were gone for a while, but now they are back. So there was a time during which they were gone. While they were gone.
I have no problem with "While they were gone" as a phrase. As I said "While they were gone, the bridegroom arrived" sounds fine. What I find unnatural is "While they were gone + to + infinitive".