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    Default need - regular vs modal verb

    So far I've found the following information:

    regular verb: I need to say sth
    * modal verb: I need say sth ---> wrong; we can't use "need" as a modal verb in affirmative

    regular verb: I don't need to say anything
    modal: I needn't say anything

    regular: Do I need to say anything?
    modal: Need I say anything? -- > seldom used but correct


    * But today I've found out that we can say "I need hardly do sth", e.g. "I need hardly remind you of ...".
    Can we use "need" as a modal verb in affirmative sentences in general? Or is "I need hardly do" an exception?

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    Default Re: need - regular vs modal verb

    'Hardly' functions as a (near-) negative, as do 'seldom', 'scarcely', 'rarely' and a few other words and expressions.
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    Default Re: need - regular vs modal verb

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    'Hardly' functions as a (near-) negative, as do 'seldom', 'scarcely', 'rarely' and a few other words and expressions.
    I know that.

    The problem is that I thought that we can't use "need" as a modal verb in affirmative.
    But doing some exercises, I've found "I need hardly remind you". "Need" as a model verb is used in affirmative.

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    Default Re: need - regular vs modal verb

    Quote Originally Posted by angelene001 View Post
    "Need" as a model verb is used in affirmative.
    As I said in my last post, we consider 'hardly' to be negative in meaning.

    I need hardly remind you = I don't really need to remind you / It should not be necessary for me to remind you / You don't really need reminding.
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    Default Re: need - regular vs modal verb

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    As I said in my last post, we consider 'hardly' to be negative in meaning.

    I need hardly remind you = I don't really need to remind you / It should not be necessary for me to remind you / You don't really need reminding.


    Oh, I'm sorry, now I understand :)
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