#11  
Old 01-Dec-2006, 00:12
curmudgeon's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,650
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: Opposite words

Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyuiop View Post
Actually strength-weakness are derived from strong-weak, which are adjectives.

And no, woman is not the opposite of man; you can say they are complementary notions, but not opposites. We are discussing language problems here, not philosophy; and from this point of view, the opposite of young man is old man.
By your thinking then, male is not opposite to female?
  #12  
Old 01-Dec-2006, 03:07
Editor, UsingEnglish.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 34,358
Home Country: UK
Native Language: British English
Current Location: Philippines
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: Opposite words

Quote:
Originally Posted by mykwyner View Post
To me, these are not so simple. Is the opposite of old man young man or is it old woman, or young woman?
Or baby? Or neonate?
  #13  
Old 01-Dec-2006, 22:13
MikeNewYork's Avatar
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 6,073
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: Opposite words

Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyuiop View Post
Actually strength-weakness are derived from strong-weak, which are adjectives.

And no, woman is not the opposite of man; you can say they are complementary notions, but not opposites. We are discussing language problems here, not philosophy; and from this point of view, the opposite of young man is old man.
Weakness obviously comes from "weak", but I'm not so sure that strength comes from strong.
  #14  
Old 16-Oct-2009, 19:52
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: Opposite words

Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyuiop View Post
Actually strength-weakness are derived from strong-weak, which are adjectives.

And no, woman is not the opposite of man; you can say they are complementary notions, but not opposites. We are discussing language problems here, not philosophy; and from this point of view, the opposite of young man is old man.
In Arabian terms the opposite of "Woman" is "Property Owner" but in English, Man and Woman are opposites.

Opposite in this sense is not negative. Just like opposing forces, they create a balance.

The opposite of a "King" is a "Peasant"
The opposite of "Safe" is "Endangered"
The opposite of "Ready" is "Unprepared"

These are very simple concepts. They balance, they neutralize, they are opposites.

Philosophy comes in when we are upset that a man and a woman are opposites; but without both, neither is complete.

Also, don't confuse the man/woman opposition with other terms like dominate, intelligent, covered, property. These have no place in relation to people, although political misuse has happened throughout history and continues, big-time today.
  #15  
Old 17-Oct-2009, 23:27
Editor, UsingEnglish.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 34,358
Home Country: UK
Native Language: British English
Current Location: Philippines
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: Opposite words

Quote:
Originally Posted by WordWise View Post
The opposite of a "King" is a "Peasant"
How does this work with contemporary monarchies? I also feel that the opposite would have to be more inclusive- everybody else and not just those at the lower end of the hierarchy.
  #16  
Old 19-Oct-2009, 12:23
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: Opposite words

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
How does this work with contemporary monarchies? I also feel that the opposite would have to be more inclusive- everybody else and not just those at the lower end of the hierarchy.
The opposite is just the equal reverse; Hot is to Cold, not Hot is to Warm.
So we don't have to include everyone 'not the king.'

But, there are various uses for one word which include several opposite words.
Hot vs Ugly
Hot vs Safe

so

King vs Homeless
King vs Slave
King vs Peasant

In a deck of cards, the King is the opposite of the 3 card. The ace is opposite of the 2 card, etc..

As to contemporary monarchies, common usage doesn't negate the correctness of the concept. A homeless person is a modern day peasant.

One problem in arguing the concept of correctness is the robust variety in the beauty of language. If we only accept one version to be correct, then it puts the rest as meaningless. They are not meaningless; they are nuance. A term to research for this thread is disambiguation.
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
opposite, words


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Active and Passive Vocabulary Harry Smith Text Analysis and Statistics 118 15-Jun-2007 04:28
Compound words with and without hyphen zaed_salah Ask a Teacher 1 12-Sep-2006 18:56
Alphabetizing Words ohiomanager Ask a Teacher 1 25-Feb-2006 11:26
1000 most important words Joe Ask a Teacher 1 12-Sep-2004 07:23
Confusing Words or Confused Words Piak General Language Discussions 3 07-Jun-2003 23:10


All times are GMT. The time now is 15:34.



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.