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30-May-2004, 20:34
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1. They must have been drunk
2. They had to have been drunk.
What is the difference in meaing between the two?
I have read this book.
I had read this book. <--is this incorrect? why?
if so, is this correct then?
I had read this book before? <--correct? why?
or should it be
I have had read this book before? <--correct? why? |
31-May-2004, 09:54
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1. I have read this book. :)
2. I had read this book. :(
==> I had read this book before you told me about it. (Event 1: read the book, Event 2: you told me about it.)
3. I have had read this book before. :(
==> There are two many verbs: have, had, read. (I have had bad days before, too; I have read this book before.)
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31-May-2004, 19:16
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"I have had read this book before." <--why is this incorrect? How is it too many verbs? Is "have, had, read" verbs?
"I have had bad days before." <--is this correct? why? Why doesn't this have too many verbs?
What is the rule for using "have had"? How do i use it? Can you give me some examples? |
31-May-2004, 23:11
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Originally Posted by jack "I have had read this book before." <--why is this incorrect? How is it too many verbs? Is "have, had, read" verbs?
"I have had bad days before." <--is this correct? why? Why doesn't this have too many verbs?
What is the rule for using "have had"? How do i use it? Can you give me some examples? | The first has two many verbs- it should be 'I have read', which is the auxiliary verb and the past participle. 'I have had' in the second is exactlythe same- auxiliary verb + past participle. (Bad is an adjective, not a verb)  |
01-Jun-2004, 09:51
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Originally Posted by jack "I have had read this book before." <--why is this incorrect? How is it too many verbs? Is "have, had, read" verbs?
"I have had bad days before." <--is this correct? why? Why doesn't this have too many verbs?
What is the rule for using "have had"? How do i use it? Can you give me some examples? | There are two different have's. One is a main verb and the other, as tdol mentions, is an auxiliary verb.
I have a house. (Main verb, present)
I have had a house. ( Auxiliary verb, present + main verb, past)
I had a house. (Main verb, past)
I had had a house. ( Auxiliary verb, past + main verb, past)
I have a book. (Main verb)
I have read a book. (Auxiliary verb, present)
I had read a book. (Auiliary verb, past)
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01-Jun-2004, 21:08
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Originally Posted by jack 1. They must have been drunk
2. They had to have been drunk.
What is the difference in meaing between the two? | I don't see any difference between the two. In both cases the speaker is attributing their behavior to what he or she supposes was their drunkenness.
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01-Jun-2004, 23:07
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I have a house. (Main verb, present)
I have had a house. (Auxiliary verb, present + main verb, past)
I had a house. (Main verb, past)
I had had a house. (Auxiliary verb, past + main verb, past)
Can you explain the meaning of these sentences? thanks |
02-Jun-2004, 08:02
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- I have a house. (Main verb, present)
= and still do
I have had a house. (Auxiliary verb, present + main verb, past participle)
= and don't now, unless I qualify it by saying how long, for instance
I had a house. (Main verb, past)
= at some time in the past
I had had a house. (Auxiliary verb, past + main verb, past)
= before some time in the past
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1. I have a house. (Main verb, present)
==> I own a house.
2. I have had a house. (Auxiliary verb, present + main verb, past)
==> I have owned a house. (Emphasis on the event)
3. I had a house. (Main verb, past)
==> I owned a house. (Emphasis on Time and event)
4. I had had a house. (Auxiliary verb, past + main verb, past)
==> I had owned a house.... (Emphasis on two events; the second event is left unstated.)
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03-Jun-2004, 14:37
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Originally Posted by MikeNewYork Quote: |
Originally Posted by jack I need help on asking questions.
When i ask questions do i use "had" or "have"?
how do i know which one to use?
lets say i asked this question:
Have you studied yet? <--how do i know if he is still studying or he had studided already? if he studided already do i use had?
is so, do i say
Had you studied yet? <--incorrect?
if i say "Had you studied yesterday?" <--correct? b/c i have stated a specific time? | Have you studied yet is correct. One would only use "had" in that question if one were talking about study that occurred prior to another past event. Quote:
which one do i use and why? and when would i use the other one?
Lets say i answered the question.
Yes i have <--correct?
or
Yes i had <--incorrect, unless i have a subsequent event right?
Yes i had studied at 10am. <--correct?
Yes i have studided at 10am <--is this incorrect? it states a specific time so i need to use had right?
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Yes, on all four. | sorry to interrupt. I thought we cannot use either present perfect or past perfect for an event with a specific time/date....like the sentence above, should we say 'yes i studied at 10.pm' instead?
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