European

[Tdol]

Why?

[blacknomi]

There's something wrong with European. :D

[Tdol]

[Tanja]

Does j in transcription count for a consonant sound? :? Or it is somewhere in between consonants and vowels :D

[blacknomi]

Originally Posted by Tanja

Does j in transcription count for a consonant sound? :? Or it is somewhere in between consonants and vowels :D

Good question.

To be more specific, it's a palatal glide.
j is like consonant in that it can't stand along; it must precede(or follow) a vowel in order to form a syllable. /j/ and /w/ are sometimes called semivowels, and it may be said that they are the consonantal forms of the vowels /i/ and /u/.

:D

[Tanja]

Originally Posted by blacknomi

Good question.

To be more specific, it's a palatal glide.
j is like consonant in that it can't stand along; it must precede(or follow) a vowel in order to form a syllable. /j/ and /w/ are sometimes called semivowels, and it may be said that they are the consonantal forms of the vowels /i/ and /u/.

:D

Great explanation, Blacknomi! Thank you!

I do remember something like palatal glide from my phonetics class...but not much...
My Introduction to Phonetics says: "[j] - constrictive, mediolingual, palatal sonant". Hmmm... this word "sonant"... it makes me confused... What is that?

[blacknomi]

Originally Posted by Tanja

Great explanation, Blacknomi! Thank you!

I do remember something like palatal glide from my phonetics class...but not much...
My Introduction to Phonetics says: "[j] - constrictive, mediolingual, palatal sonant". Hmmm... this word "sonant"... it makes me confused... What is that?

Thanks. You are most welcome. :D


You mean "sonorant".


Sonorants are sounds produced with a relatively FREE passage of air through the mouth or the nose. Notice: the opposite of sonorants are called 'obstruents'; the airstream cannot travel through the nose, it is obstructed(blocked) in the passage through the vocal tract.

It is marked as [+son] or [-son].

Sonorants:
Nasal stops: m, n, ing
Liquids: l, r
Glides: j, w
Vowels: you know that :D

[Tanja]

Originally Posted by blacknomi

Thanks. :D


You mean "sonorant".


Sonorants are sounds produced with a relatively FREE passage of air through the mouth or the nose. Notice: the opposite of sonorants are called 'obstruents'; the airstream cannot travel through the nose, it is obstructed(blocked) in the passage through the vocal tract.

It is marked as [+son] or [-son].

Sonorants:
Nasal stops: m, n, ing
Liquids: l, r
Glides: j, w
Vowels: you know that :D

Sonorant instead of sonant? Funny! Is there really a misprint in the book?! :? :D

[Tanja]

Sonant=voiced consonant.
That's what dictionary says.

[blacknomi]

You are right on that!

And all sonorants are sonants! But not all sonants are sonorants. :D