Is there any evidence for thinking?

[taghavi]

I mean, with existing something called "thinking" in her mind, I would not be able to know if she was thinking. Because of weakness of my ablility to recognize whether she is using her brain or not, so, I cannot prove any kind of possiblity of her thinking.
she might be thinking but I may not prove such this. And it refers to my weakness.
Does it make sense?

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by taghavi

I mean, with existing something called "thinking" in her mind, I would not be able to know if she was thinking. Because of weakness of my ablility to recognize whether she is using her brain or not, so, I cannot prove any kind of possiblity of her thinking.
she might be thinking but I may not prove such this. And it refers to my weakness.
Does it make sense?

I would not agree that this is a weakness. If no other human can do it, how is it a weakness that you can't do it?
It might be something that you wish you could do. It might be frustrating for you not to be able to do it. It might be unhelpful for your friend. But none of this implies weakness - unless you are referring to the inherent weakness of human beings. But we can only do what we have evolved so far to do.

[taghavi]

Exactly. I refer to inherent weakness of Human beings.

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by taghavi

Exactly. I refer to inherent weakness of Human beings.

Well, that's how God made us, isn't it? Are you saying He did an inadequate job in making us too weak? (By the way, while we're postulating a God, I believe He will have made your friend the way she was too).

[taghavi]

Do you mean that God didnt know the way of creating my friend, and used the ready-made pattern of her structure. It probebly nature taught god how to make my friend, yes?

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by taghavi

Do you mean that God didnt know the way of creating my friend, and used the ready-made pattern of her structure. It probebly nature taught god how to make my friend, yes?

No, I'm not claiming that. You know I don't believe in God.
I was asking you: Isn't that what you are implying?
My own position is that humans can only do what we have evolved to be able to do; and that your friend has unfortunately been dealt a bad hand (by nature).

[taghavi]

Yes I do know that you believe in only evolution. because you compare every thing to scientific reason; in other words, physical reason.

And do you believe that evolution can get the end of the world and will get human rid of weakness and deficiencies? nature should have power to reply such this question. because nature made us as wise human kinds.

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by taghavi

Yes I do know that you believe in only evolution. because you compare every thing to scientific reason; in other words, physical reason.

And do you believe that evolution can get the end of the world and will get human rid of weakness and deficiencies?
No, do you?
I can't even imagine what a human without weaknesses and deficiencies would be like - especially if one defines "weaknesses" as you do - ie. as something that a human would like to do but can't.
Of course, one could take away a human's perception of their deficiencies and weaknesses. And I find it quite easy to imagine that some people can envision a future where humans do not perceive themselves to have deficiencies.

nature should have power to reply such this question. because nature made us as wise human kinds.
In a sense, nature can reply to this question. Nature would say "No, a human is inherently imperfect, and will not evolve to become perfect" - providing you are defining "perfection" as being able to do non-human things like knowing what a "locked-in" person is thinking.

Do you think humans could or should evolve to become perfect?
What could it possibly mean?

[taghavi]

Sure the answer of nature is "No", because nature itself isn't perfect and cannot answer "yes".

As to your question I am not sure if I got it correctly, however if you mean that "will someday become humans' perception perfect ?" I can answer "yes" but not only through physical evolution.

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by taghavi

Sure the answer of nature is "No", because nature itself isn't perfect and cannot answer "yes".

As to your question I am not sure if I got it correctly, however if you mean that "will someday become humans' perception perfect ?" I can answer "yes" but not only through physical evolution.

What about our pets, and other animals? Also plants - will they become perfect one day?
I'm not being facetious - I'd really like to know your answer. If humans are one day going to be able to read minds, maybe plants will be able to do it to.