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    Same principle. Use the full term which avoids confusion and ensures that it is quite clear who is being cited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    Same principle. Use the full term which avoids confusion and ensures that it is quite clear who is being cited.

    This suggestion was put forward earlier, and adopting it takes us back to square one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y-o-u-s-e-f View Post


    Further to this, and pending your approval, perhaps we can just define this usage of the collective "he" pronoun as the "Entity deixis". This may stimulate a native speaker linguist/grammarian/lawyer to address this issue.
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    Salam,

    Yes! Of course, it’s called a “third person deixis” and some experts have predicted the demise of this particular usage of the pronoun. But, certainly it’s still quite acceptable in refined texts.

    Personally, I don’t find Gricean maxims that productive. To me, the suggestions are rather philosophical than scientific. You can even detect some conflicts in the maxims.

    But I firmly hold to a linguistic suggestion with this respect: what a person conveys should be interpreted in a way so that it will be understood.

    As I said, in a contract, the referents will be known; as a result there won’t be much trouble.
    Do have to agonize over the same problem in Arabic?


    Chester,

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    i think 'It' will be used as second party is a party (a singular noun) so use It for it dear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Y-o-u-s-e-f View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I hope somebody can help with this:

    In contract wording,you normally have 2 parties ( The First Party and The Second Party), be they individuals, companies, or governmental firms.

    Which pronoun (he, they, it) would you use to refer to either party in a sentence like:-

    - The second party is to carry out the tasks..... . (He / They/ It) is / are expected to finish those tasks in......

    Expecting your welcomed input on this.

    Thank you

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    Default Re: Which pronoun to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Y-o-u-s-e-f View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I hope somebody can help with this:

    In contract wording,you normally have 2 parties ( The First Party and The Second Party), be they individuals, companies, or governmental firms.

    Which pronoun (he, they, it) would you use to refer to either party in a sentence like:-

    - The second party is to carry out the tasks..... . (He / They/ It) is / are expected to finish those tasks in......

    Expecting your welcomed input on this.

    Thank you
    The best to solve this problem is to not use pronouns.

    "The second party is to carry out the tasks assigned to the second party in this Agreement and the second party is expected to finish such tasks as are specifically outlined in Paragraph B of this Agreement".

    Another method - in the US - is to assign a name or title to the respective parties.

    For purposes of this Agreement the reseller shall be called the "Buyer" and the wholesaler shall be called the "Seller".

    Here is some wording from a purchase contract -

    Buyer shall complete Buyer investigations and, as specified in paragraph 14B, remove the contingency or cancel this Agreement. Buyer shall give Seller, at no cost, complete copies of all Buyer investigation reports obtained by Buyer. Seller shall make the property available for all Buyer investigations. Seller shall have water, gas, electricity and all operable pilot lights on for Buyer’s investigations and through the date possession is made available for Buyer.

    Pronouns could be used here but there is always the chance of someone misunderstanding who is being referred to.

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