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Old 08-Dec-2008, 18:08
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"Literature has generally been seen as something to be studied rather than created".
With this sentence I would like to make you understand how different can be the reality, far away from what generally we think.
Poems,novels are always be taught at school and students have to take notes about the author's life, reading the main poems of him and trying to understand them actually.

Students can understand where a specific retoric figure is but they aren't be taught to write down on their own.
Students know what kind of novels Jane Austen writes down.
Students are able to understand the main interesting themes of a novel but what they actually don't know anything about is really how to write a poem.

Is it possible teaching to students how to write poems on their own? Can we try to be poets without having such a talent as Leopardi and Pascoli?
As other subjects in the school can be also taught how to write poems.
It's a bit difficult at first but then it will be more easy.
And more often then not it helps people writing what they feel,their worries and happiness too.
So it's a fault saying that isn't possible teaching to write novels.



Can you correct it?thanksssss........=)
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"Literature has generally been seen as something to be studied rather than created".
Do you have a source for that quote?



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Say:
Poems and novels are taught at school....
Don't say:
main poems of him
Lose:
actually
Make an attempt at a rewrite. What should you change to make it better?

(It's not my job to do your work. It's my job to help you do better.)


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"Literature has generally been seen as something to be studied rather than created".
With this sentence I would like to make you understand how different can be the reality, far away from what generally we think.
Poems and novels are taught at school and students have to take notes about the author's life, reading poems as well and trying to understand them.

Students can understand where a specific retoric figure is but they aren't be taught to write down on their own.
Students know what kind of novels Jane Austen writes down.
Students are able to understand the main interesting themes of a novel but what they actually don't know anything about is really how to write a poem.

Is it possible teaching to students how to write poems on their own? Can we try to be poets without having such a talent as Leopardi?
As other subjects in the school can be also taught how to write poems.
It's a bit difficult at first but then it will be easier.
And more often than not it helps people writing what they feel, their worries and happiness too.
So it's a fault saying that isn't possible teaching to write novels.

Is it better now? How can I improve it more?
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An increasing number of universities in the UK offer creative writing at undergraduate and graduate levels, but in Oxford, English literature has generally been seen as something to be studied rather than created.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3491000.stm

Is that where you got that quote from?
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"Literature has generally been seen as something to be studied rather than created".
With this sentence I would like to make you understand how different can be the reality, far away from what generally we think.
Poems and novels are taught at school and students have to take notes about the author's life, reading poems as well and trying to understand them.

Set the quote apart, thus:
"Literature has generally been seen as something to be studied rather than created."
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With this sentence I would like to make you understand how different can be the reality, far away from what generally we think.
Poems and novels are taught at school and students have to take notes about the author's life, reading poems as well and trying to understand them.

Try:
With this sentence I would like to make you understand how different the reality can be--far away from what we generally think. Poems and novels are taught at school, and students have to take notes about the author's life, read poems by the author and try to understand them.
I think you should be more specific. What reality do you mean--the reality of literature?

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the reality isn't that only talented people can be poets but also normal student after being taught as well!!!


How can I improve it more?=)
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But I don't understand if in general my text is correct or not....I would like to know any eventual grammar mistake!!...thanksss
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But I don't understand if in general my text is correct or not....I would like to know any eventual grammar mistake!!...thanksss
gx90t, good attempt, but your text is not really all that coherent.

Allow me to point out a few places where you should make changes to your style and grammar:
"Literature has generally been seen as something to be studied rather than created".
You will need to explain to the reader what the above quote means. Context is everything. Who said it, when did they say it, and why did they say it?

With this sentence I would like to make you understand how different can be the reality, far away from what generally we think.
'make you understand' is rather forceful. Writing is all about persuasion: you'll want to use ideas and argumentation (i.e., the ordering of those ideas) to persuade the reader into adopting your opinion.

Grammar
1. You're talking about a quote, not 'a sentence.'
2. 'the reality' is incorrect unless is takes an of-phrase; e.g., the reality of it all. Try, 'reality'
3. 'far away from what generally we think' is awkward for a couple of reasons. First, who are 'we' and what do they think? You'll need to define and explain that. Second, the adverb 'generally' is misplaced and the phrase far away is used incorrectly. Try, ... far from what we generally think.
Poems and novels are taught at school and students have to take notes about the author's life, reading poems as well and trying to understand them.
You mention 'Poems and novels' yet you don't really talk about both. You go on to explain poems, and end with the word 'novel'. As such, the reader is left confused.

Grammar
1. Students learn ..., read ..., as well as try ...
Good luck in your writing.
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Students can understand where a specific retoric figure is
By "rhetoric figure" do you mean "figure of speech"?

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but they aren't be taught to write down on their own.

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Students know what kind of novels Jane Austen writes down.
Jane Austin wrote novels. She didn't write them down. (There is a difference.)
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Students are able to understand the main interesting themes of a novel but what they actually don't know anything about is really how to write a poem.
That sentence starts off being about novels and ends up being about poetry. Stick to the subject.


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