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Can you explain me, please, the difference between adjectives true, complete and full? Can I say a complete newcomer, a full newcomer and a true newcomer ? And what about a complete foreigner, a full foreigner and a true foreigner ? Is there any difference between these three word-combinations?

Could you please grade these word-combinations in accordance with a 4-grade scale, where 4 stands for the most correct phrase and 1 for the most incorrect? E.g.: true newcomer - 1, true foreigner - 4, full newcomer/foreigner - 1

Thanks in advance to everyone who will try to help me

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Can you explain me, please, the difference between adjectives true, complete and full? Can I say a complete newcomer, a full newcomer and a true newcomer ? And what about a complete foreigner I]a full foreigner[/i] and a true foreigner ? Is there any difference between these three word-combinations?

Could you please grade these word-combinations in accordance with a 4-grade scale, where 4 stands for the most correct phrase and 1 for the most incorrect? E.g.: true newcomer - 1, true foreigner - 4, full newcomer/foreigner - 1

Thanks in advance to everyone who will try to help me
Work with the context. Do not get hung up on a specific word. Check your dictionary - foreigner versus newcomer. How does full/true/complete relate to the person?
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How does full/true/complete relate to the person?
What do you mean by how do these adjectives relate to the person? As far as I understand they relate straightly
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What do you mean by how do these adjectives relate to the person? As far as I understand they relate straightly
Try "full" for example. You fill something. It is full. How can a person/a foreigner be full? Full of what? Do I make sense?

FYI -
No thank you, I am full - I do not care for additional food. I have had enough.
He is full of it. AE - He braggs, exaggerates.
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Try "full" for example. You fill something. It is full. How can a person/a foreigner be full? Full of what?
For the first sight you're quite right. But what can I see in the dictionary:

full - complete especially in detail, number, or duration.

So then a full stranger can mean a complete stranger, a person who is strange in all details - features.

Am I mistaken? You know, I'm not a native speaker, so, of course, I can be mistaken and that's why I'm trying to understand!!! Dictionaries are not a big help...
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Dictionaries can be a very big help if used properly. If you can't find the adjectives the word 'stranger' collocates with you should buy some dictionary of collocations. For example, I'd advise you to buy "Oxford: Collocations - dictionary for students of English". Say you need to find out what adjectives you can use with the word 'stranger'. On opening such a dictionary you find out that you can say: a complete (perfect, total) stranger. That's quite easy, I quess.
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On opening such a dictionary you find out that you can say: a complete (perfect, total) stranger. That's quite easy, I quess.
It's undoubtedly easy!!! But I'd like to know the difference!!!
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For the first sight you're quite right. But what can I see in the dictionary:

full - complete especially in detail, number, or duration.

So then a full stranger can mean a complete stranger, a person who is strange in all details - features.

Am I mistaken? You know, I'm not a native speaker, so, of course, I can be mistaken and that's why I'm trying to understand!!! Dictionaries are not a big help...
Make it easy for you - can you fill a stranger? I do not think so. It is a complete stranger. The whole entity is an unknown.
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Make it easy for you - can you fill a stranger? I do not think so. It is a complete stranger. The whole entity is an unknown.
OK! Let's regard this point to be over! Then you should explain me everything concerning the difference between true and complete
What is the difference between a true foreigner and a complete foreigner? I'm looking forward to your answer!!!
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OK! Let's regard this point to be over! Then you should explain me everything concerning the difference between true and complete
What is the difference between a true foreigner and a complete foreigner? I'm looking forward to your answer!!!
Meow! Next round.

Foreigner - an outsider be it country or group. How do you know he is complete if he is not part of your group? He has to be a true foreigner as you know nothing about him. You stranger on the other hand - everything is strange about him, isn't it. Does that make him a total stranger?
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