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    Hi all,
    I would like to share How To Learn English Very Fast, listen to English and read English.... do not translate.

    1. Never Study A Single English Word
    That’s right, do not memorize words. Native speakers do not learn English by remembering single words. Native speakers learn phrases.

    2. Never Study Grammar
    Right now. Stop. Put away your grammar books and textbooks. Grammar rules teach you to think about English, you want to speak automatically– without thinking!

    3. Learn With Your Ears, Not Your Eyes
    Spend most of your study time listening- that is the key to great speaking.

    4. Slow, Deep Learning Is Best
    Its not enough to know a definition. Its not enough to remember for a test. You must put the word deep into your brain. To speak English easily, you must repeat each lesson many times.

    5. Use Point Of View Mini-Stories
    You must learn grammar by listening to real English. The best way is to listen to the same story… told in different times (points of view): Past, Perfect, Present, Future. How do you do this? Easy! Find a story or article in the present tense. Then ask your native speaker tutor to write it again in the Past, with Perfect tenses, and in the Future. Finally, ask him to read and record these stories for you.

    6. Only Use Real English Lessons & Materials
    How do you learn Real English? It’s easy. Stop using textbooks. Instead, listen only to real English movies, TV shows, audio books, audio articles, stories, and talk radio shows. Use real English materials.

    7. Listen and Answer Mini-Stories (not Listen and Repeat)
    Because the teacher constantly and quickly asks easy questions, you don’t have time to think about grammar. You just immediately shout a couple of words– which teaches you to respond faster, and faster, and faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmmbi View Post

    2. Never Study Grammar
    Right now. Stop. Put away your grammar books and textbooks. Grammar rules teach you to think about English, you want to speak automatically– without thinking!
    I don't agree with this point. I like to study grammar and I have a lot of fun doing it.
    Maybe you mean "study grammar later"? That would be OK.

    It is also fun and interesting to think about English, why not?

    Never say never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    I don't agree with this point. I like to study grammar and I have a lot of fun doing it.
    Maybe you mean "study grammar later"? That would be OK.

    It is also fun and interesting to think about English, why not?

    Never say never.

    I agree with Ymnisky. You need to know something about grammar. You don't need to be obsessed with the rules of course.

    And Real English: what's Real English? there are so many different accents, including non-English accents, that it is difficult to learn just by listening to others without knowing some grammar. If I think of just the different accents Italians have when speaking English. so yes, listen to audios, watch films, but read and don't forget grammar completely.
    Last edited by valdisole; 12-May-2010 at 12:30. Reason: Added a paragraph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    I don't agree with this point. I like to study grammar and I have a lot of fun doing it.
    Maybe you mean "study grammar later"? That would be OK.

    It is also fun and interesting to think about English, why not?

    Never say never.
    I also disagree with that point, but for a different reason. Learning grammar helps with learning a language.

    I also find grammar fun, but that's beside the point, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I also disagree with that point, but for a different reason. Learning grammar helps with learning a language.

    I also find grammar fun, but that's beside the point, I think.
    Yes, Raymott, I think we have already discussed it somewhere else.
    I am not sure whether learning grammar helps everyone learning a foreign language.
    I think it depends on the learner. And I believe that ESL methods which do not rely on (formal) grammar teaching may be able to achieve their goals.

    If grammar were inherently fun it would not be besides the point because it would help motivate students. But I reckon it may not be as fun for others as it is for us.

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