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Old 17-Oct-2005, 10:22
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You might want to explain "passive participles". It might just attract more contributors.
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Interesting topic.
I would be interested also in their active counterparts...
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Don't take it bad, but I find this need to name, or rename, or find names for participles quite obsessional
I may have missed something, so I looked for in Google and I found this quotation :

...this source of ambient data can help provide relevant key words and leads that may have previously been unknown.
(http://www.forensics-intl.com/evidguid.html)

This was just to try to understand what the point was, but it's late here (11 PM), and I feel maybe I'm too tired to understand where it leads...

So this was my modest contribution: trying to find an example in a real context (or a cotext, or whatever). Now, I understand what it means, I know how the sentence works, what else do I need?...
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Don't take it bad, but I find this need to name, or rename, or find names for participles quite obsessional . I may have missed something
Yes, you've missed the fact that you can opt out of threads that you cannot contribute to in a positive way.
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You might want to explain "passive participles". It might just attract more contributors.
Reading is good for the mind:

The present participle in English is an active participle; the past participle is usually a passive participle (but sometimes not: in particular, the past participles of intransitive verbs are never passive, and are therefore sometimes used with active senses, such as in the expression fallen comrades).

"Passive participle" is used to refer to the form of the verb that follows passive "be".

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Could you help list passive participles with "un-"?

unknown
unloved
unspoken
untouched
unexpected
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Hello M56,
Not to be rude with you, M56, but your opinion looks reasonable only at first glance, I'm afraid.
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"Passive participle" is used to refer to the form of the verb that follows passive "be".
To be frank with you, I don't like this statement of your's. Now I'm trying to coin more apt term. How about participle of 'affectedness' or something like that...
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Yes, you've missed the fact that you can opt out of threads that you cannot contribute to in a positive way.
Thanks for reminding me.
In fact, I was just trying to figure out what your purpose was from the point of view of a teacher whose aim is to have his pupils use a language.
Yours is the grammarian's, well, at least that's what I can gather from your posts.
A little bit like there are entomologists who spend their lives categorizing insects pinned on cardboard, whereas others observe their behaviour in their natural environment.
Both are probably useful to science, although I'm not really into entomology.

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There's a so-called...ahem... theoretical entomology.
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Hello M56,
Not to be rude with you, M56, but your opinion looks reasonable only at first glance, I'm afraid.

To be frank with you, I don't like this statement of your's. Now I'm trying to coin more apt term. How about participle of 'affectedness' or something like that...
You say that you don't like the statement, but you don't say why.
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