Are the 5 basic sentence patterns sacred?

[RonBee]

"It struck me as an excellent plan" certainly seems to better sentence to me. The other two words seem to be superfluous.

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[Edited for spelling. Thanks, Tdol.]

[Tdol]

Have a 't' on me.

[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by jwschang

Interesting Q.
Looks like it is: like, brand new = very new = like new. If not hypenated:
1. brand new = adverb + adjective (although brand is a noun)
2. very new = adverb + adjective
3. like new = adverb + adjective (although like is a preposition too)
4. slow-burn (cooker) = adjective + infinitive
5. high-octane (fuel) = adjective + noun

Language is too complicated to be sacred! Trouble is, a lot of things are sacred only because they are complicated. Don't understand, don't ask, it's sacred.

new brand (adj + noun)
brand new (noun + adjective)
really brand new (adv + adj + adj)

I think 'brand' is a noun functioning as an adjective. Whaddya thunk?

It's a new brand.

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[Casiopea]

"It struck me as it is an excellent plan"

Originally Posted by James

Perhaps it should be, "It struck me as an excellent plan." I don't think you need the "it is" part. The "It" is a problem in this sentence as the "as an excellent plan" part is clearly a complement of "it" rather than of the object, "me". It is different from the "He makes me sick"-type of pattern as I am the one who is sickened by him. "I was struck by how it is an excellent plan.... hmmm.... I 'm confused.

I agree. :D Replace the 'it is' with (being):

It struck me as (being) an excellent plan. SVOC


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[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by tdol

Have a 't' on me.

:D What? Y'gonna hoard the 'h' and the 'e'? :D

I hope everyone here is good and healthy. I just recovered from a two-week flu, it was horrible, I was so sick I didn't bother to go online!!

Originally Posted by Casiopea

The word 'exhausted' has an inflectional -ed suffix. Words are not listed in the dictionary with inflections. Take off the -ed and you'll find the word 'exhaust'. If we add -ed to it we get a past participle in form. In our example sentence:

She left the room exhausted.

'exhuasted' describes her state of being. How she left. (Adverb)
'exhausted' is an adverb.
'exhuasted functions as an adverb.
Sentence Pattern: SVO+Adv

Sorry but I have to ask again: is "exhausted" really an adverb? Is it used like "surprised" in "I'm surprised."? But then "surprised" here would be an adjective? Because if

'exhuasted' describes her state of being.

then we can say "She is exhausted", right?

*Sorry. Did I say SVOC originally? Sorry.

None taken. You WERE right from the very beginning.

Originally Posted by MikeNewYork

Thanks!

If we can say that the sentence, "The police found him dead", is a SVOC (Subject Verb Object Adjectival complement). And if we want to say that the sentence, "He is upstairs", is a SVC (Subject Linking-Verb Adverbial complement), then we should be able to say that the sentence, "The police found him upstairs", is a SVOC (Subject Verb Object Adverbial complement). Or how about, "The police found him dead upstairs"?

[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by James

If we can say that the sentence, "The police found him dead", is a SVOC (Subject Verb Object Adjectival complement). And if we want to say that the sentence, "He is upstairs", is a SVC (Subject Linking-Verb Adverbial complement), then we should be able to say that the sentence, "The police found him upstairs", is a SVOC (Subject Verb Object Adverbial complement). Or how about, "The police found him dead upstairs"?

Welcome

The police found him (dead) upstairs. SVOC+adverb
He was dead. SVC
He was upstairs. SV+adjunct

Note, linking verbs do not have adverbial complements; they have adverbial adjuncts. The difference between a complement and an adjunct is that complements are part of the verb, whereas adjuncts are not. They function as added information.

He was upstairs = He exists. He exists upstairs. It's the existing and not he that happens upstairs.

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Well, learnt a lot from you guy...Thank you...

Originally Posted by landekai

Well, learnt a lot from you guy...Thank you...

no problem, piggy knuckle, you are welcome. :wink: