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There is more to consider when learning and teaching English pronunciation than simply phonemic accuracy.


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If the other person understands the other, then the primary goal has been achieved. Niceties come later, but there has to be sufficient accuracy for communication, otherwise it's a waste of time.
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If the other person understands the other, then the primary goal has been achieved. Niceties come later, but there has to be sufficient accuracy for communication, otherwise it's a waste of time.

I'll get back to this later.


Could you please elaborate a bit on what you mean by "niceties" in this case?

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Basic comprehensibility must come first, then we can worry about rising and falling intonation with tag questions.
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Basic comprehensibility must come first, then we can worry about rising and falling intonation with tag questions.

Ah of course. I understand that and agree. But I'm not exactly driving at that sort of thing.


One thing I'm thinking about here is natural stress patterns, as well as natural intonation patterns. There's more. More later I think.


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Caught?

No, not caught. More later.


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There is more to consider when learning and teaching English pronunciation than simply phonemic accuracy.


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Question: What do you mean by 'phonemic accuracy'? :D
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There is more to consider when learning and teaching English pronunciation than simply phonemic accuracy.


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Question: What do you mean by 'phonemic accuracy'? :D

the ability to make the individual sounds of letters and letter combinations in the correct way - I think there is more to good pronunciation than simply being able to produce the sounds correctly.

I read "phonemic accuracy" on a document or site. I find it to be a useful term when talking about pronunciation. Understanding more about pronunciation can help one to hear and understand English better in some cases.

More later.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=phoneme

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=phonemic


http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q...%22&FORM=SMCRT
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Would you include weak and stressed forms in that, or would they be part of your wider picture?
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