whıch one ıs better way for easyer learnıng englısh ? musıc? gramer ?

[nyggus]

Originally Posted by Amela_Ze

I think that you should first learn some basics of grammar and spellings. After you do that, you can try practicing reading and pronounciation. Take some easier literature, for beginners maybe, analyse the sentence, put new words onto a paper and try to memorize them. That's the best way of learning English on your own!
In my opinion, of course.

Mine as well. Quite agree with you though many would not. Their free will!

[Amela_Ze]

I'm glad I could help!

[blouen]

Originally Posted by nyggus

Mine as well. Quite agree with you though many would not. Their free will!

That´s man nyggus! Nice to see you again.

[nyggus]

Originally Posted by blouen

That´s man nyggus! Nice to see you again.

Too many duties to come here as often as I'd like to. But here again, Blouen, crazy as always!

[blouen]

Originally Posted by Amela_Ze

I think that you should first learn some basics of grammar and spellings.

I think spelling is not necessary to start with.

[nyggus]

Originally Posted by blouen

I think spelling is not necessary to start with.

Well, it is important, but it should come naturally from reading, without which, of course, learning rather seldom is effective (unless one is learning a language among native speakers of the language).

[Marina Alejandra]

you must start with grammar and then the songs and movies or games.
the most important is that the students can understand what they're saying.
so with the songs or movies they learn to talk and, what's important too, to listen.So if you hear somebody talking fast you can understand what he/she is saying.

[riverkid]

It might be important to remember that children learn language without any overt grammar instruction. Depending on the age, there is a great deal to be said for forsaking grammar instruction in favor of combining language with contextually rich situations.

I remember seeing on TV, a little Japanese girl who learned English, [she sounded like a native speaker], from watching a series of pointed learning cartoons that her parents bought for her.

Grammar is hard stuff and it isn't something that can explain the nuances of language. Obviously, everyone needs some basic structure, but again, remember that children learn virtually all the grammar of their language by age four or five.

There are only a certain number of patterns in all the languages of the world. When a child's internal grammar has had enough exposure to a new language, all the rules fall into place.

I taught returnees, children who moved from Japan to an English speaking country with their parents, then returned home, for many years.

How do these non-native children, some of whom spend as little as six months abroad, come back as native English speakers and their parents, after years of grammar study before the sojourn abroad, come back as much poorer English speakers, some with virtually no progress made.

I think that there is a great deal of untapped ability to learn a new language that has to be unlocked properly. What the key is still puzzles me.