Forum newsfeeds
Forum Newsfeeds


Sites for Teachers

Sites for Teachers


Go Back   UsingEnglish.com ESL Forum > Learning English > General Language Discussions
Register FAQDonate Members List Mark Forums Read Tags

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 02-Nov-2007, 16:31
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Country: .
Location: .
First Language: .
Posts: 646
Thanks: 183
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
jctgf is on a distinguished road
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariranalily View Post
"English is very important." "English is the key to the world."
These are what teachers told us, and we all realized that in our country.

But, what about those missing languages? What happened to them?
What will happen after those lanugaes missing? Nothing will happen?
Why those languages is vanishing?

What is the definition of "important" in the language field?
Do you think the problem here is only about the language?

Please reply me as soon as you can, thank you very much!!!

saying that english is "the key to the world" is simply to go overboard.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 17-Nov-2007, 13:07
Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Country: Turkey
Location: Turkey
First Language: Turkish
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Codemaster is on a distinguished road
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

I love Turkish because it is the richest lang. in the world.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 01-Dec-2007, 16:23
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Country: Iran
Location: Iran
First Language: parsi (persian)
Posts: 160
Thanks: 46
Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
atlaisha is on a distinguished road
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

[quote=mousa;218335]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
Languages are dying out at a very fast rate nowadays. I am afraid that most small languages are unlikely to survive.[/qu
In my view Languge is part of nations' tradtion or more clearly langugues are treated with alot of respect in most countries. If we look back to any languge we will find huge differances due to technology and many other things but that does not mean these languges are dying .
personally , I found it that most pepole proude of their own languge and as far as they doing that there is no worries. people learn other languges and mostly English to get more benfits of the technology and also make them able to comminucate with pepole around the world.

Hi,
i wanted to tell you that if you observe your own language,you'll see it is really endangered,though many people around the world speak it, but yet the amount of foreign words entering the language and the amount of native words exiting and being forgotten by native speakers shows that how terribly parsi is in danger.for example nowadays people are more likely to use absolutely newly entered english words in their everyday conversations like:ok,yes,box,delete,message and tons of english words that entered parsi with computers and cellphones.and if you compare the words and phrases people use today with those they used like 50 years ago you'll see how deeply it's changed.and yet parsi is in good conditions comparing with those small languages spoken in certain areas everywhere in the world just like small languages that are in verge of extinction in iran.

i think technology rules in expanding a language.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 01-Dec-2007, 20:28
rewboss's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Country: England
Location: Germany
First Language: English
Posts: 1,574
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
rewboss is on a distinguished road
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

Just because a language borrows words and phrases from other languages doesn't mean that language is endangered.

English has long borrowed words from other languages. Here are just a few examples:

kindergarten
anorak
igloo
video
perestroika
glasnost
holocaust
café
schadenfreude
céilidh
graffiti
blitz

...and so on.
__________________
rewboss.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 02-Dec-2007, 06:55
Editor, UsingEnglish.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Country: UK
Location: Phnom Penh
First Language: English
Posts: 24,927
Thanks: 1
Thanked 155 Times in 151 Posts
Tdol has disabled reputation
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

English is a mix of languages and has always been able to absob words from other languages without this being seen as a threat.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 02-Dec-2007, 08:15
RonBee's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Country: USA
Location: North Carolina
First Language: English
Posts: 11,810
Thanks: 26
Thanked 241 Times in 227 Posts
RonBee has a spectacular aura aboutRonBee has a spectacular aura aboutRonBee has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rewboss View Post
Just because a language borrows words and phrases from other languages doesn't mean that language is endangered.

English has long borrowed words from other languages. Here are just a few examples:

kindergarten
anorak
igloo
video
perestroika
glasnost
holocaust
café
schadenfreude
céilidh
graffiti
blitz

...and so on.
I agree with cafe, but céilidh? Eh?

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 02-Dec-2007, 13:51
rewboss's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Country: England
Location: Germany
First Language: English
Posts: 1,574
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
rewboss is on a distinguished road
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
I agree with cafe, but céilidh?
From Irish and Scottish Gaelic; an evening of music and dance, a sort of Gaelic barn dance. English céilidhs have grown in popularity (and are sometimes called "eCeilidhs".) I'm not sure exactly what the difference is between a barn dance and an English céilidh, but I am assured there is one.
__________________
rewboss.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 02-Dec-2007, 16:47
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Country: Iran
Location: Iran
First Language: parsi (persian)
Posts: 160
Thanks: 46
Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
atlaisha is on a distinguished road
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rewboss View Post
Just because a language borrows words and phrases from other languages doesn't mean that language is endangered.

English has long borrowed words from other languages. Here are just a few examples:

kindergarten
anorak
igloo
video
perestroika
glasnost
holocaust
café
schadenfreude
céilidh
graffiti
blitz

...and so on.
But i think english is an exception here.it's different about Parsi,it's not in danger of extinction,but imagine a day when %95 of words used by speakers are not Parsi.imagine 50 years further people who call themselves persian speakers can't understand the meaning of most persian words.

what do you call it?what's the condition of a language then?

we are moving towards that point,losing more words everyday.
if english borrows many words,there are still more words created in this language,but what about our language?

now some people are making Parsi webblogs encouraging people to use Parsi words,but until the government takes no actions,nothing will be proceeded.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 02-Dec-2007, 17:12
RonBee's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Country: USA
Location: North Carolina
First Language: English
Posts: 11,810
Thanks: 26
Thanked 241 Times in 227 Posts
RonBee has a spectacular aura aboutRonBee has a spectacular aura aboutRonBee has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages on this planet?

Until the government takes action nothing will happen?

~R
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 02-Dec-2007, 17:33
rewboss's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Country: England
Location: Germany
First Language: English
Posts: 1,574
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
rewboss is on a distinguished road
Default Re: What happened to those missing languages in this planet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by atlaisha View Post
it's different about Parsi,it's not in danger of extinction,but imagine a day when %95 of words used by speakers are not Parsi.imagine 50 years further people who call themselves persian speakers can't understand the meaning of most persian words.
This is called the "slippery slope" argument, and such arguments are usually wrong. Just because some English words have found their way into Parsi doesn't mean that 95% of all Parsi words will disappear or be forgotten.

I do understand the concern -- I get annoyed with "Denglisch", which is when English words and phrases are used in German; but after 50 years of Denglisch, German is still 99.9% German. Denglisch is often used in marketing because advertisers think that Germans consider English to be "cool", but often the slogans they come up with are nonsense, bad English, or misunderstood by the general population. I dislike Denglisch not because it endangers German, but because marketing experts are too dazzled by its sheer coolness to realise that most ordinary Germans are actually put off by it. Some Germans use Denglisch to prove that they are broad-minded and tolerant of foreign cultures, when in fact all they prove is that they never paid attention to their English teachers at school.
__________________
rewboss.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply
Tags:




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Learning Foreign Languages: Is it a hobby or a must? Harry Smith General Language Discussions 158 02-Dec-2007 21:39
happened or had happened? vaok Ask a Teacher 4 08-Nov-2007 12:28
The meaning of "the rest of the planet" ian2 Ask a Teacher 4 30-Dec-2006 05:11
Went missing? glorria Ask a Teacher 3 04-Dec-2006 17:55
"What happened to you" or "What's happened to Cicily21 Ask a Teacher 7 06-Sep-2004 08:19


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:09.



vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright © 2002 - 2008 UsingEnglish.com