State verbs + -ing

[tzfujimino]

Originally Posted by naomimalan

"Go to, then; you come to me and you say
'Shylock, we would have moneys'. You say so-
You that did void your rheum upon my beard
And foot me as you spurn a stranger cur
Over your threshold..."

I have absolutely no idea what those sentences above mean, but
I clearly understand what you're saying, in a very simple language for English learners. Thank you for the useful information. I respect you.

[dawoodusmani]

Originally Posted by naomimalan

Languages move along. Would all anglophones be able to understand Middle English, let alone Old English?

Forms that are considered to be acceptable today, often evolve from forms that were held to be unacceptable in the past (whom >> who; I as complement to the verb to be >> me.)

And vice-versa: what was acceptable in the past may have become unacceptable today. Take Shakespeare in The Merchant of Venice". How many words/structures in the following passage have become obsolete (the biggest change being the use of did + infinitive in the place of a simple past tense)?

"Go to, then; you come to me and you say
'Shylock, we would have moneys'. You say so-
You that did void your rheum upon my beard
And foot me as you spurn a stranger cur
Over your threshold..."

Incidentally (talking of preserving the sanctity of a language) note that Shakespeare uses the relative pronoun that for a human being [You (Shylock) that...]! Maybe in the 21st century one shouldn't be defending the exclusive use of who; but rather one should respect the sanctity of Shakespeare's language and go back to that.

Anyway, no hard feelings I hope.

Thank you banderas and naomimalan . You guys have been very very helpful and informative. These might help me have broad vision about foreign language. There is a proverb in my language " Asking question is already half of the information." This means if we don't ask or argue about something we'll not be able to have information and be perfect. Just by speaking out my mind, I got your right opinions and sound information. Thanks again. This site is really amazing!
Best regards!
Dawood

[naomimalan]

Originally Posted by dawoodusmani

Thank you banderas and naomimalan . You guys have been very very helpful and informative. These might help me have broad vision about foreign language. There is a proverb in my language " Asking question is already half of the information." This means if we don't ask or argue about something we'll not be able to have information and be perfect. Just by speaking out my mind, I got your right opinions and sound information. Thanks again. This site is really amazing!
Best regards!
Dawood

Thank you dawoodusmani for having the decency and the courage to admit defeat. You possess a rare quality: humility. Some members, when shown to be in the wrong , reply angrily or in an arrogant way, or else remain totally silent.

I really admire you. Thank you again!

[naomimalan]

[quote=tzfujimino;294907]I have absolutely no idea what those sentences above mean,Thanks tzfujimino, you've proved my point! but
I clearly understand what you're saying, in a very simple language for English learners. Thank you for the useful information. I respect you. Thank you for the nice compliment![/quote]

[e2e4]

i'm liking?

there are two states to make my choice on
"do like" or "do not like" and nothing else.

like and enjoy are completely different in meaning.

I am enjoying my ice cream. Every time, after a while, enjoying stops.

But I like ice cream. It never stops.

[naomimalan]

Originally Posted by e2e4

i'm liking?

there are two states to make my choice on
"do like" or "do not like" and nothing else.

like and enjoy are completely different in meaning.

I am enjoying my ice cream. Every time, after a while, enjoying stops.

But I like ice cream. It never stops.

Yes but when like is followed by the -ing form of the verb (the gerund) it does mean enjoy e2e4.

I like playing with my little grandson.
I like swimming in the sea
I like cycling in the countryside
I like going for walks in the cool of the evening.

Sometimes the meaning of a word changes according to its "neighbours" in a sentence. In your sentence I like ice cream, like is followed by a noun, which changes its meaning ever so slightly: I am fond of ice cream. In a sentence where like is followed by the the infinitive (She likes to do her homework as soon as she gets back from school so that she can enjoy herself afterwards), like means something different again.

See?

[e2e4]

A) Because you've told me, you like playing with your grandson, and it means enjoy, please say you will both enjoy and like your time with your grandson tomorrow afternoon.

please use will form for future

B) you've arranged to be having your time with your grandson tomorrow afternoon at 5 o'clock.

using present continuous form with adverb of time for pointing to future
please say you are about to either enjoy or like your time with your grandson tomorrow afternoon at 5 o'clock.

C) Please say you are going to go to like your time with your grandson in the next summer.

thanks in advance
e2e4

[naomimalan]

Originally Posted by e2e4

A) Because you've told me, you like playing with your grandson, and it means enjoy, please say you will both enjoy and like your time with your grandson tomorrow afternoon.

please use will form for future

B) you've arranged to be having your time with your grandson tomorrow afternoon at 5 o'clock.

using present continuous form with adverb of time for pointing to future
please say you are about to either enjoy or like your time with your grandson tomorrow afternoon at 5 o'clock.

C) Please say you are going to go to like your time with your grandson in the next summer.

thanks in advance
e2e4

Sorry e2e4 but I don't really understand what you want. Why don't you write some sentences and ask us to correct them for you?

[e2e4]

Here are some of them

Being younger I used to play sports for I like many sports very much. (like > feeling)
Now being advanced in years i enjoy books and i'm enjoying one right now. (enjoy> reading; taking an action)

Much as I like skiing i can't enjoy it for the skiing is very expensive.
Even I haven't been enjoying skiing for years i like skiing.

I wouldn't say I haven't been liking skiing for years but do now.
I think it's ok to say I didn't like skiing (when was young) but I do now.
(now means not exactly right now but in the last few years, now and in the future)

For me the difference between like and enjoy is obvious from these examples.
Like is static verb and shouldn't take continuous form
Enjoy is dynamic verb which takes action or not.
Of course both are related to positive feelings.

word like has a few more meanings as well.
for example word like sometime may be used instead of such as but it doesn't mean like is completely equal such as.

[Uncle M]

Originally Posted by anamaria_qd

Hello,
I want to ask you a question concerning state verb "like"
You are liking strange things these days.:Is it grammatical this sentence?

Thank you!

Just to digress slightly, people now describe their 'likes' (things they like to do, see, hear etc) by the expression 'I'm into...music, sport, football etc.

So many people would say "You are into some strange things these days"

I don't like this practice personally - it verges on street slang (and I'm not into street slang!). But this information may be useful: should you hear a spoken example you'll know what it means.

Dave