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21-Jul-2003, 07:08
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Dear Sirs,
As I have a lot of things in writings of someone, as I am going to mention them hereunder:-
1. 2nd Semeseter Intake (Is this correct when they want to say that they are accepting enrollment of students for 2nd. Semester?).
2. "No one care for you like us." (The same institute posted its advertisement for enrollment of students) Should it be "No one cares about you/ cares you like us"?
3. From another institute, it says "Grammar for enhancing English Writing Proficiency" What is the correct way of writing for this kind of phrase. Should it be "Grammar for enhancing the English Writing Proficiency/ Grammar for enhancing of the English Writing Proficiency", or not?
4. "Signing Contract Ceremony". This advertisement is made by two big companies in my country posted in a newspaper. Should it be written "Signing of Contract Ceremony or Signing the Contract Ceremony"
, or not?
5. The same thing can be often seen on Windows PC Screen such as:-
A. "Reading information 70% complete." Should it be "Reading the drive information.... or Reading on the drive information...?
B. "Defragmenting Drive C" Should it be "Defragmenting on Drive C or Drfragmenting on the Drive C?
Is it possible to explain the principle making this kind of Phrase, please.
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21-Jul-2003, 10:35
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Originally Posted by Piak Dear Sirs,
As I have a lot of things in writings of someone, as I am going to mention them hereunder:-
1. 2nd Semeseter Intake (Is this correct when they want to say that they are accepting enrollment of students for 2nd. Semester?).
I think this is correct.
2. "No one care for you like us." (The same institute posted its advertisement for enrollment of students) Should it be "No one cares about you/ cares you like us"?
No one + singular verb --> No one cares
care for and care about can be used in this situation.
3. From another institute, it says "Grammar for enhancing English Writing Proficiency" What is the correct way of writing for this kind of phrase. Should it be "Grammar for enhancing the English Writing Proficiency/ Grammar for enhancing of the English Writing Proficiency", or not?
"enhancing English Writing Proficiency" could be correct as it is an indefinite noun phrase. Yet you may add the definite article "the" to the sentence. "enhancing of" seems not an appropriate pattern.
4. "Signing Contract Ceremony". This advertisement is made by two big companies in my country posted in a newspaper. Should it be written "Signing of Contract Ceremony or Signing the Contract Ceremony"
, or not?
No, your suggestions were wrong. The words form a noun phrase. But yours were not correct noun phrases. In fact "Signing Contract Ceremony" should be changed to "Contract Signing Ceremony".
5. The same thing can be often seen on Windows PC Screen such as:-
A. "Reading information 70% complete." Should it be "Reading the drive information.... or Reading on the drive information...?
B. "Defragmenting Drive C" Should it be "Defragmenting on Drive C or Drfragmenting on the Drive C?
Is it possible to explain the principle making this kind of Phrase, please.
"Reading information" is a noun phrase using gerund.
Defrag is transitive verb, which does not need any perposition.
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21-Jul-2003, 13:38
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Originally Posted by Piak "No one care for you like us." (The same institute posted its advertisement for enrollment of students) Should it be "No one cares about you/ cares you like us"? | Say: "No one cares about you like we do." ("Care for" means something different.)
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21-Jul-2003, 13:41
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Originally Posted by Piak From another institute, it says "Grammar for enhancing English Writing Proficiency" What is the correct way of writing for this kind of phrase. Should it be "Grammar for enhancing the English Writing Proficiency/ Grammar for enhancing of the English Writing Proficiency", or not? | The original phrase is fine. There is no need for the definite article ("the").
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21-Jul-2003, 17:21
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Thank you so much, RonBee, for your prompt response to my post. I actually understand some, but not all of them, especially, about the phrase building, it is quite confusing for me. Could you go deeper into the rules of making it; like Noun Phrase, Indefinite Noun phrase and How about "Defragmenting the Drive C", does this work better, or not? To my point of view placing an article in front a word it can denote the word as a noun. And you also mentioned that defragment is a transitive verb, it needs an object, -which is a noun or something work as a noun. With this point of view, I then think of using "the" in front of Drive C. If "Defragmenting Drive C", it seems to me that the phrase itself is a double noun word, isn't it. That could mean the Drive C is defragmenting, isn't it? I probably wrong, kindly emphasize it again, so that I will not be confused about it any longer. Well, my questions seem to disturb much of your time, If you don't mind, please suggest me to visit a website which provides more details about it, please.
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21-Jul-2003, 18:32
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A phrase is just a group of words that is linked in some way. Thus, there are many types of phrases: noun phrases, adverbial phrases, adjectival phrases, prepositional phrases.
A noun is a noun whether you place an article in front of it or not. Whether you use an article or not and what article you use is based on other things. If something acts as a noun it is a noun.
I would normally say "defragmenting the C drive".
"Drive C" is indeed a two word noun.
Please tell me if you have any questions that remain unanswered.
Please use more white space.
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21-Jul-2003, 18:55
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If you need computer advice (especially concerning Windows), go here: http://forums.about.com/ab-windows/start
I am sure they can help you there or direct you to where you can get help.
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21-Jul-2003, 21:24
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To my BE ears, care 'about' sounds better- care for is stronger like parents and children.  |
21-Jul-2003, 21:25
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Grammar for improving proficiency in writing in English.
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It means 'reading information is 70% commplete', ie the act of reading the information.
There's no need for a preposition with 'defragment' because it is actually changing the c drive itself. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
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