Discourse analysis, pragmatic, jargon..questions?

[Ever Student]

Thank you so much Kon. You want to say that pragmatics has a particular time,place, number and person while Discourse analysis is not as pragmatics. Yes? If it is so, I completely get it. so;

Pragmatics;
-concrete
-general
-particular time, place, number
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Discourse analysis;

-Abstract
-more general
-not to do with place, number, time

Did I write correctly?

[Ever Student]

according to Raymott,
"Register is a style that you have used in a certain situation".......
So can we use "style" instead of "register"?

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by taghavi

Only the [] in pragmatics part.

Well, then I can't explain why they use similar examples to illustrate these different concepts.

[konungursvia]

Originally Posted by taghavi

Thank you so much Kon. You want to say that pragmatics has a particular time,place, number and person while Discourse analysis is not as pragmatics. Yes? If it is so, I completely get it. so;

Pragmatics;
-concrete
-general
-particular time, place, number
----------------------------------

Discourse analysis;

-Abstract
-more general
-not to do with place, number, time

Did I write correctly?

Yes, on the whole, that's a good start.

[Ever Student]

Thank you.

[Ever Student]

Hi again,
would you please answer my question?

Originally Posted by taghavi

according to Raymott,
"Register is a style that you have used in a certain situation".......
So can we use "style" instead of "register"?

[konungursvia]

I don't think it's a style, he was just making it easy for you by simplifying.

Register is like clothing -- the same person can wear bed clothes, a jogging suit, work attire, formal wear, a wedding dress.... many levels.

Register is like that, the different levels of formality we "wear" for a time. Each is appropriate in a certain situation.

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by konungursvia

I don't think it's a style, he was just making it easy for you by simplifying.

Yes, I was. Register is different from style if both words are used technically. I was using "style" colloquially.

Speaking of technicalities, jargon as a linguistic term is not pejorative.

[Ever Student]

Thank you very much.

[konungursvia]

Originally Posted by Raymott

Yes, I was. Register is different from style if both words are used technically. I was using "style" colloquially.

Speaking of technicalities, jargon as a linguistic term is not pejorative.

It is here, and in much of the English-speaking world. Here are the web definitions from google:

define: jargon - Google Search

Definitions of jargon on the Web:

• slang: a characteristic language of a particular group (as among thieves); "they don't speak our lingo"
• jargoon: a colorless (or pale yellow or smoky) variety of zircon
  wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
• A pidgin is a simplified language that develops as a means of communication between two or more groups that do not have a language in common, in situations such as trade. Pidgins are not the native language of any speech community, but are instead learned as second languages. ...
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_(pidgin)
• Jargon is terminology which has been especially defined in relationship to a specific activity, profession, or group. ...
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon
• Jargon is the special language of a certain group or profession, such as psychological jargon, legal jargon, or medical jargon. ...
  www.pearsoned.ca/text/flachmann4/gloss_iframe.html
• Language that is used or understood only by a select group of people. Jargon may refer to terminology used in a certain profession, such as ...
  www.gale.cengage.com/free_resources/glossary/glossary_im.htm
• the special language of a profession or group
  www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~anne_conghuyen/literaryterms.doc
• The special language of a profession or group. The term jargon usually has pejorative associations, with the implication that jargon is evasive, tedious, and unintelligible to outsiders. The writings of the lawyer and the literary critic are both susceptible to jargon.
  www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/Section/Literary-Terms-Poetry-Glossary.id-305499,articleId-30165.html
• Words that have special meanings for a particular group of people. For instance, to a librarian, the word stacks means shelving used in a library.
  oldweb.uwp.edu/library/2003/intro/glossary.htm
• A term once used for an inferior diamond having a yellowish color. May be confused with jargoon, a variety name for colorless zircon.
  www.diamonddictionary.net/content/blogcategory/25/62/
• encompasses a number of specific and related definitions which results in a broad flexibility in the way the term is actually used. ...
  www.oohlalapink.com/articles/definitions/
• is simply an abbreviated form of language that encapsulates tacit knowledge. It is very useful in a community sharing a common interest as it ...
  baldi.diplomacy.edu/articles/JPU.htm
• the specialized vocabulary and idioms of a group of people engaged in the same activity or line of work.
  www.baylor.edu/lib/tutorials/index.php
• confusing Internet & computer programming terms explained
  www.zaptech.com/jargon/
• The specialized vocabulary or set of idioms shared by a particular profession. The various acronyms and idioms used by the US military forces would be considered jargon.
  www.catchwordbranding.com/resources/glossary.php