problem with a tree ( please help )

[Senpai]

Hello everyone,
Hope you're fine

I've a small problem with the following sentence:

The man in the classroom believes he is smart.

The man ( NP )

in the classroom (PP)

Believes (VP)

He is smart (S)

Ok... then , the problem is how can I draw the tree if I have NP, PP, VP, S ?

it should be NP + VP .. right ?!

and the PP + S ... with what i have to connect ?
please anyone can draw the tree ? =(



I hope my question is clear

[Frank Antonson]

I am sorry. I cannot help you with a tree.
But I can tell you that with the Reed-Kellogg system that sentence would be very easy.
Linguist Farmer

[Trance Freak]

I'll try to represent your sentence using the Phrase Structure Rules, somehow -_-"

S:The man in the classroom believes he is smart.

S= NP + PP + AUX + VP

NP= Det....+.....N
..........|................|
.........The........man

PP=..P.........+.......NP
.........|.............../...|
.........|..........Det...N
.........|............|.......|
........in..........the...classroom

Aux= 0

VP=.V.......+.......VP
.........|..................|
.........|..................S'
.........|..................|.......\............. \
.........|...............NP....AUX.........VP
.........|.................|..........|........... ...|.....\
.........|................N.........|............. .V.....AD
.........|................|...........|........... ...|........|
.........|................|...........|........... ...|.......A
.........|................|...........|........... ...|.......|
.....believes......he........0..........is......sm art

[Senpai]

I am sorry. I cannot help you with a tree.
But I can tell you that with the Reed-Kellogg system that sentence would be very easy.
Linguist Farmer

thank you very much mr. Frank Antonson

I really don't have any idea about Reed-Kellogg system ..
because I've studied Introduction to linguistics .. and just studied the Tree Diagram + PSR

but if this Reed-Kellogg system easy tell me about it if you don't mind

so sorry if i was bothering you

(F)

[Senpai]

I edited the post =D ... anyway ..

I'll try to represent your sentence using the Phrase Structure Rules, somehow -_-"

S:The man in the classroom believes he is smart.

S= NP + PP + AUX + VP

NP= Det....+.....N
..........|................|
.........The........man

PP=..P.........+.......NP
.........|.............../...|
.........|..........Det...N
.........|............|.......|
........in..........the...classroom

Aux= 0

VP=.V.......+.......VP
.........|..................|
.........|..................S'
.........|..................|.......\............. \
.........|...............NP....AUX.........VP
.........|.................|..........|........... ...|.....\
.........|................N.........|............. .V.....AD
.........|................|...........|........... ...|........|
.........|................|...........|........... ...|.......A
.........|................|...........|........... ...|.......|
.....believes......he........0..........is......sm art

many thanks

but i think, we can NOT put PP under the S

S --> VP NP AUX .. only, right ?

[Trance Freak]

many thanks

but i think, we can NOT put PP under the S

S --> VP NP AUX .. only, right ?

no no you can put a PP, ADVP, AP,& even an S', take a look at this
........................................S......... ......................
.................../................/................\.................\
.................NP..............PP............... AUX...............VP
............../...|...............|..\...............|........... ......|..
now you get to finish the tree as shown in the above post.

[Senpai]

no no you can put a PP, ADVP, AP,& even an S', take a look at this
........................................S......... ......................
.................../................/................\.................\
.................NP..............PP............... AUX...............VP
............../...|...............|..\...............|........... ......|..
now you get to finish the tree as shown in the above post.

aha .. thaaaaaaaanks a lot as big as the sky XD
I appreciate your effort really really appreciate it T_T

thanks again ..

(L)

[Trance Freak]

aha .. thaaaaaaaanks a lot as big as the sky XD
I appreciate your effort really really appreciate it T_T

thanks again ..

(L)

you're more than welcome I'm here whenever you need help in respresenting sentences using PSR or Xbar Theo. Ciao!
By the way, I'm a girl

[Frank Antonson]

Reed-Kellogg is an American system and is little known outside of the USA.
It is like a visual language. I find it very easy to use for demonstrating the structure of sentences.
Here is a website that might work as an introduction to the process. Warning -- it will be very different from tree diagrams (which I don't understand very well at all)
DIAGRAMMING SENTENCES
Linguist Farmer

[Senpai]

you're more than welcome I'm here whenever you need help in respresenting sentences using PSR or Xbar Theo. Ciao!
By the way, I'm a girl

Thanks again .. my sister

hmmm .. as I said before we can NOT put PP under the S
I spent all the night on this syntax chap. =(

i found this:

S = NP + VP (AUX)

NP= ....... (PP) ......
.
.


in my sentence we have to put the PP under the NP
then we'll get NP + VP .. that means we have The S now


S contains NP, VP (AUX) < optional ... but PP, i don't think so

that's what i've learnd =(



if i wrong correct me ... and so sorry .. i think you'll kick me =P


SORRY again


Ja ~