A Few Questions on Linguistics

[dr_linguista]

Do phonetics and phonology refer to the same concept?
What is the difference between phoneme, phone and allophone?
What is the meaning of "phoneme is an abstract entity"? Does it mean that it cannot be represented?
What is suprasegmental domain? Does it refer to stress, intonation, pause..etc?

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[Ezilzha]

Hi,

No Phonetics is the way the sounds sound like
Phonoly is the way we sound them
like /c/ can sometimes sound like /k/ like in /cat/ or /cake/ & sometimes like /s/ like in /cease/
in phoenitcs you will write /cat/ as /kat/ & /cease/ as /sis/.

phoneme is the smallest uint possible like /cat/, //pre/ /sent/ (present)

phone is the sounds /s/, /d/, /r/. allophone is like in some languages you can have 2 or more sounds or the same phone or in some derivation (of tenses) you use sound 1 instead of sound 2
you can see it in japanese, where they switch between /r/ & /l/ for instance.

sorry, don;t remember the answer to the last one.

You do relaise you need to further study this from books, this is just the tip of the ice.

Hope this helps

[dothewho]

Hey dr_linguista,
propably this might help you somehow....

Phoneme:

A Phoneme is an abstract unit because you don't see it or hear it in daily speech.
But it can be represented as you will see...

A Phoneme is the smallest distinctive sound unit, that one usually discovers with the minimal pair analysis:

e.g.:
/cat/ - /pat/
/pit/ - /put/
/pit/ - /sit/

The total amount of a speakers possible sounds is represented by its different phones (e.g. /s/; /p/; /i/; /.../).
A phone can sometimes be realised in a different way.
That is what we call an ALLOPHONE (or allophonic variation):Allophones occur in complementary distribution. There are some constraints that say when to use which allophone!Allophones can be predicted with respect to the phonological "region" they occur in.They are redundant features -they do not change the meaning of a word. But they sound curious when they are used in the wrong place.

e.g.:PHONEME /p/

ALLOPHONES /p/------------/p/
+aspiration -aspiration

(usually you use "diacritics" to sign aspiration or other features)


I don't know what suprasegmental domain means, but i guess that it has to do with morphology and syntax....but i do not knowSorry

[Casiopea]

Welcome, dr_linguista.

Originally Posted by dr_

What is suprasegmental domain? Does it refer to stress, intonation, pause..etc?

A suprasegmental is a vocal effect that extends over more than one sound segment in an utterance, such as pitch, stress, tone, vowel length, nasalization, and aspiration.

Originally Posted by dr

I am desperate

Try this very handy source:

http://www.sil.org/linguistics/Gloss...erms/Index.htm

[Casiopea]

Welcome, Ezilzha and dothewho.

[dothewho]

Hey Casiopea

[manal]

casiopea >> thanks a million for the site i really needed that

[chen mat]

phonetics and phonology are not th e same. phonology us the study of the sreucture and patterning of the sound whike phonetics is how the sound is represented thrugh phonemes. a pgoneme is the underlying representation of the sound, how it is represented symbolicalltm while allophones are the variations of the sound. sometimes there is more than one representation to the phoneme. like /s/ /z/ are allophones of the same sound. i hope i helped you a bit